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Gay Toilets In Advertising

Tom Coates’ recent post on the cur­rent Muller ad. cam­paign, in which, to quote Tom, ‘mincing gay men flounce around the place look­ing at straight men’s cocks’ reminded me of the odd stan­dard in adver­tis­ing that con­sis­tently anthro­po­mor­phises toi­lets as camp gay men.

You might not have noticed, but there are cur­rently two sep­a­rate cam­paigns airing for prod­ucts that stop your loo smelling of poo fea­tur­ing camp speak­ing toi­lets. (I can’t for the life of me remem­ber the brands in ques­tion - they’re bad adverts in every sense.)

In both, women are shamed by their talk­ing toi­lets into taking more care over the odors emi­nat­ing from the bowl, lest their house­guests think ill of them. In one ad., the loo is voiced by Julian Clary (or an imper­son­ator) in the other, it’s a generic Ken­neth Williams-​esque voice that chides the housewife.

The reason for this queer­ing of the toilet bowl is simple: you can’t have a woman sit­ting on the face of a humanoid toilet that is explic­itly hetero - the wonks script­ing the ad. are in weird enough ter­ri­tory as it is with­out intro­duc­ing a cun­nilin­gual sub­text to the rela­tion­ship between the Every­woman hero­ine and her newly clean and sweet-​smelling shitter.

In his com­plaint about the Muller cam­paign, Tom chooses to miss out a layer of the Muller spot, one shared by the adverts fea­tur­ing our poofy toilet friends - the gay Air Stew­ard (what a lazy, lazy stereo­type) who looks at a man’s willy to make people buy yoghurt (do they really want to asso­ciate yoghurt with cocks?) doesn’t do so with a las­civ­i­ous glance, nor does he make an aggres­sive pass. Instead, it’s a purse-​lipped end-​of-​the-​peir mug to camera. So, instead of have the pro­tag­o­nist fuck his girl­friend in some yoghurty way, we are shown her get­ting dis­tracted by a deli­cious tub of Muller Light, while her boyfriend is forced by cir­cum­stances beyond his con­trol to have a non-​sexual encounter with a gay man.

WTF?

On the one hand, this could all be seen as an exten­sion of media rep­re­sen­ta­tion of gay men as inher­ently asex­ual, non-​threatening fig­ures of fun - just as dam­ag­ing a stereo­type as the one Tom iden­ti­fies when he says:

When I was grow­ing up gay I was under the mis­ap­pre­hen­sion that gay people were dirty and sick­en­ing and pathetic because of adverts like this.

But I think it’s more com­pli­cated than that. In all these adverts, sex is being used to sell prod­ucts - whether it’s the wink­ing harpies (Harpics?!) who trade double-​entendres with their living toi­lets, or the woman who prefers a tub of live cul­ture to the atten­tions of her man - but the impli­ca­tion of shag­ging is dif­fused through a neutered-​but-​sexual homo­sex­ual. That’s at least as dan­ger­ous a mes­sage (or chunk of social con­trol, if you’re feel­ing para­noid) as the, erm, straight por­trayal of gay men as threat­en­ing pervs - these adverts say, effec­tively, that gay men are naugh­tily sug­ges­tive of sexual activ­ity, but also that they them­selves are barred from that activity.

It’s a bit like dress­ing your Barbie doll up like a slut, only to point out to every­one that she has no cunt.

There’s a point buried up there some­where, I think (in this post, I mean, not your Barbie doll). It’s prob­a­bly that until the tele­vi­sion adver­tis­ing indus­try starts pre­sent­ing gay men (and les­bians, who are sim­i­larly much-​used in their most unthreat­en­ing, lip­sticky form) in the way that, say, adver­tis­ing has, on the whole, learned to present mixed race cou­ples, or ethnic minori­ties in gen­eral, with­out making it an issue, let­ters of com­plaint like Tom’s are much needed.

Posted at 4pm on 12/07/04 by Jack Mottram to the art and culture category.
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    1. Toilet adverts are aimed at women, because the major­ity of men, despite sev­eral weeks of evo­lu­tion, haven’t yet accepted the fact that the place you poo in needs to be cleaned occasionally.
    2. House­wives are lonely, and like to believe that their house­hold appli­ances like and care about them. Adver­tis­ers quite nat­u­rally exploit this desire for com­pan­ion­ship by prof­fer­ing the fan­tasy of verbal housewife-​appliance communication.
    3. Thus, the speak­ing toilet.
    4. If the toilet had a butch, het­ero­sex­ual male speak­ing voice, the con­no­ta­tions would be unavoid­ably sexual, due to the implied invi­ta­tion by the toilet that the house­wife should sit on his face.
    5. If the speak­ing toilet was female, by the same token, the impli­ca­tion would be one of unfet­tered les­bian per­ver­sion sweep­ing the bath­rooms of the nation.
    6. The only cat­e­gory of sexual being that can in fact offer its face to be sat on by a female with­out the impli­ca­tion of erotic intent is a gay man.
    7. Thus, the gay speak­ing toilet.
    8. You see?

    Posted by ida slapter at 12pm on 13.07.04

  1. Er, isn’t that exactly what I say in the post (except I didn’t bother with 5)?

    Posted by Jack at 1pm on 13.07.04

  2. Simply point­ing out that it is a matter of brute cap­i­tal­ist expe­di­ency, rather than Some­thing More Sin­is­ter. Every­thing is pre­sented in ‘its most unthreat­en­ing, lip­sticky form’ in adver­tis­ing. Obvi­ously. It’s not an arena that’s intended to chal­lenge, or fairly rep­re­sent, is it?? It only absorbs social changes in order to cover more poten­tial cash-​scraping bases - not because it GIVES A SHIT. Any rep­re­sen­ta­tion of minori­ties in adver­tis­ing is there­fore going to be either offen­sively car­i­ca­tur­ish (hilar­i­ous shriek­ing queers/glowering hip hop thugs/saintly dis­abled people) or offen­sively bland (lip­sick lezzers/smiling mixed race couples/pleasantly dotty old folks). It works in broad strokes.
    The Muller advert doesn’t espe­cially bother me; it’s just a bawdy sitcom sce­nario that hap­pens to involve a preda­tory gay man. I think it’s coun­ter­pro­duc­tive to get too para­noid about that kind of thing. Gay men also tend to make a lot of jokes about preda­tory gay men, no? It’s like having gay char­ac­ters in soaps - they might be slen­derly and shal­lowly char­ac­terised and sub­ject to hor­rific stereo­typ­ing, but at least they’re there, in the main­stream con­scious­ness. Grad­u­ally, it evens out - any­thing threat­en­ing has to get awk­wardly mocked or mis­rep­re­sented for a while before it gets prop­erly accepted. When you see, say, an Indian lady in a sari in a Boots advert, or a person in a wheel­chair pre­sent­ing kids’ TV, you know it’s totally con­trived tokenism - but wouldn’t you rather they were on TV in any capac­ity than NOT AT ALL? Con­sider Nadia - isn’t it finally a pos­i­tive thing that British people are respond­ing to a trans­sex­ual as a real feel­ing human, even though she’s get­ting dis­grace­fully lam­pooned and misunderstood?

    Posted by ida slapter at 9am on 20.07.04

  3. Hmmn. I dunno - I’m not sure it’s an entirely good thing to have groups ‘in the main­stream consciousness’ in such a way as to rein­force the views of those groups already extant in the main­stream con­scious­ness. In fact, I’m pretty sure it’s a bad thing. The Muller ad, for exam­ple, would’ve worked just as well with a straight woman (or better yet, a hen night party) check­ing out the bloke’s willy; by having a minc­ing poof doing the willy-​checking, you get a joke at the expense of the minc­ing poof as well as at the expense of the hap­less boyfriend.

    And this has noth­ing in common with tokenism, which obvi­ously always presents it’s token minor­ity rep­re­sen­ta­tive in a pos­i­tive light. Your token pre­sen­ter in a chair is socially useful - if a wheelchair-​using little kid sees some­one with a chair in a fairly glam­orous, high-​profile job, that can only help them to deal with the dif­fi­cul­ties being in a chair presents, and give them some­one to point to when faced with the ‘Does he take sugar?’ assump­tions that their phys­i­cal dis­abil­ity ren­ders them inca­pable in areas where it makes no dif­fer­ence. A gay little kid seeing the Muller ad, as Tom said, is unlikely to take any­thing pos­i­tive from that rep­re­sen­ta­tion, it just rein­forces the sort of shit the gay kid is get­ting in the play­ground every break­time. Even offen­sively bland is good, really - those smil­ing mixed race cou­ples, by dint of their smil­ing ‘normality,’ prob­a­bly shift a few pre­con­cep­tions, and even if it’s thanks to a com­bi­na­tion of polit­i­cal cor­rect­ness and simple greed (black people have money too!) the result is good.

    any­thing threat­en­ing has to get awk­wardly mocked or mis­rep­re­sented for a while before it gets prop­erly accepted

    Well, yeah, but you can still hope that we might be able to skip this stage when it comes to sex­u­al­ity, having gone through it over decades with rep­re­sen­ta­tion of women and ethnic minori­ties in the media (not, obvi­ously, that those groups are prop­erly rep­re­sented yet.) Also, it seems that good rep­re­sen­ta­tion of minori­ties defined by sex­u­al­ity doesn’t stick - it’s been a decade or more since the first (laugh­ably chaste) gay kiss on Eas­t­en­ders (between a non-​mincing, non-​evil gay couple), but the furore sur­round­ing a recent gay sto­ry­line in Corrie recently matched the tabloid oppro­brium of ten years ago.

    And Nadia is an inter­est­ing one: she’s not being per­ceived as a woman in the press, or even on Chan­nel 4’s Big Brother pro­grammes, but if you look at the onscreen SMS mes­sages from kids on the live cov­er­age, she’s mas­sively liked because she’s good fun, full stop - you see com­ments like ‘You go girl!’ not ‘You go suspiciously-​jawed tran­sex­ual who I will mock to mask my fear of the other!’ Doubt that means the kids of today are incred­i­bly broad-​minded, but her fan­base must con­tain folk who pre­vi­ously would’ve run a mile on meet­ing a tran­sex­ual, or beaten her up, and who are now going to treat trans­gen­der folk with a wee bit more respect, despite the media take on her. (Com­pare this to the neutered screecher Brian who won a couple of years ago by rein­forc­ing the idea of gay men as deeply triv­ial ‘entertainers’ who, most impor­tantly, don’t have torrid bumsex. Which gave him the per­fect in to pre­sent­ing kids TV, which is a whole other media peculiarity.)

    Posted by Jack at 11am on 20.07.04

  4. I can’t believe I am point­ing this out, but the minc­ing queer Muller ad was a follow-​up to a pre­vi­ous ad in which the young man tried to wheech the young lady into a plane toilet for some hetero action and acci­den­tally wheeched the gay plane stew­ard instead. Because she was busy, like, orgas­ming over a fuck­ing yoghurt.
    I don’t know if that makes it any better, but it does mean there’s a con­text, rather than him just being a Pass­ing Gay.
    I’m more wor­ried about women being told that low-​fat diet foods are a thrillingly naughty indul­gence far prefer­able to sex, myself.
    I am, inci­den­tally, shortly to take up a posi­tion as the Chair In Muller Rice Advert Stud­ies at the Uni­ver­sity of East Chiswick.

    Posted by ida slapter at 3pm on 20.07.04

  5. You, madam, are a freak. Though you do have a point about the (very common, very bizarre) trend in adver­tis­ing to present Prod­uct X as better than sex. It’s always prod­ucts that bear some vague resem­blance to a gentleman’s vis­cous essence, too. (See the Philidel­phia adds fea­tur­ing pervy angelic chicks - solidspunkguzzletastic.)

    Posted by Jack at 2am on 22.07.04

  6. Why not have the toilet speak with “the voice of God”? Well maybe not THAT God down at the C of E … but how about the Oracle of Delphi? It just seems so obvi­ously correct!

    Would the voice of a bidet sound dif­fer­ent from that of a toilet bowl? French, perhaps?

    As for gay air stew­ards, I’m yet to meet one … and I do travel … despite Tracey Ullman’s “Trevor” and “Will” on Mile High.

    I think maybe I saw a gay counter-​person once in a TCBY. Ah! Now it starts to make sense!

    You think Alexan­der the Great had a lisp? Not if he was bloody Irish!

    Posted by Rossbot 2000 at 4pm on 22.02.08

  7. Can anyone give more list of diet foods?’-;

    Posted by Faith Foster at 7am on 16.07.10

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