Submit Response is a weblog by Jack Mottram, a St. Peter’s Seminary
Yesterday, Leon, myself and our friends Guy and Eleanor took a trip to St. Peter’s Seminary at Cardross. Now derelict, the Seminary was something of a modernist architectural marvel, built in the 1960s and designed by Isi Metzstein of Gillespie, Kidd and Coia.
We took a lot of photographs, chatted to some lads who spend their evenings swigging Buckfast on the altar and got a wee bit spooked by the sinister atmosphere. Great fun.
So far, there’s only a few photographs online. All mine, all taken with a Lomo, but once all the developing and scanning is done, we should have a nice little collection for you all to look at, along with as much information on the Seminary as we can gather together.
Oh, and I think I first came across St. Peter’s thanks to the work of Toby Paterson - an interview with him has inexplicably been languishing in Draft status limbo in the Submit Response database since April. It is now online (severley truncated, unfortunately, thanks to potentially career-harming comments from Toby!)
Posted by Jack at 7pm on 21.09.03
[this is good]…still trying to save for a lomo…
Posted by brat at 1pm on 22.09.03
Are they a lot? I mailed the bloke at the Joy of Concrete site about the St. Peter’s pics, and he mailed back saying he accidentally went and spent £500 on stuff from the Lomo site after looking at them!
I, er, kinda sorta stole the two I have - you can borrow one if you like, at some vague point in the future when I get it back from the person I just lent it to…
Posted by Jack at 3pm on 22.09.03
And what’s that weird little image doing next to your name?
Posted by Jack at 3pm on 22.09.03
Duh, it’s thanks to the custom stylesheet I use in this browser. I really need one of those ‘memories’ things that other people seem to find so useful.
Posted by Jack at 3pm on 22.09.03
i feel rude interupting this conversation with yourself*…hehe
i don’t think the lomo lca are that expensive, mind you they have upped the price alot over the years…
it’s one of those items i’ve wanted to buy for years, and just never got round to indulging myself…
lovely photo’s, thanks for the kind offer but i move to london this friday…maybe i’ll treat myself when i get a new job…
hmm maybe i need to get off the net, stop thinking about cameras and start packing boxes
Posted by brat at 3pm on 22.09.03
Ooh, moving house. With any luck I’ll be doing that myself soon. Not far, though. I don’t like living more than 30 seconds walk from my beloved Kelvingrove Park. Hee.
I would really reccommend getting a Lomo, as they do produce really beautiful images, especially when your not trying - the Lomo Kompact Automat is the one to go for, but the lomography site is asking â¬180 (what’s that? about £120?) which takes the piss for what is, in effect, a crap camera. You can get a second hand one on eBay for £64 just now, though.
Also drool-worthy is the Lomo Lubitel 166B TLR, a medium format cheapie that I kinda-sorta want but will never buy. Apparently quite a respectable camera, despite being made of plastic, and dirt cheap if you can find one. Not exactly a Hassleblad, like, but interesting…
Anyways, fuck this still shit, I’m all about moving images from next week when my PXL 2000 arrives. To say that I’m incredibly, massively, totally, brutally super-mega-hyper-excited about this purchase is an understatement!
Posted by Jack at 5pm on 22.09.03
It’s just a fucking toy camera, you big Nathan Barley. And no I’m not jealous at all. Honest.
Posted by Leon at 5pm on 22.09.03
wow…it looks like something from ‘back to the future’…thats a good thing!
Posted by brat at 6pm on 22.09.03
It’s HUGE as well, and GREY and PLASTIC. God, I cannotfuckingwait for it to arrive.
I think I might need a lie down. And perhaps a soft whimper to myself as I muse on the beauty of a universe in which such things exist.
And less of yer Nathan Barley slurs, Leon. You’re named after Trotsky and wear Dolce & Gabbana glasses, so you do. Although, to be fair, I must indeed admit to being a sad old Barley-chops. Now where did I leave that Lomo? Oh, there it is: beneath my knitting, next to the mesh cap, beside my Patrick Wolf album. Miaow.
Posted by Jack at 9pm on 22.09.03
Holds up confessional sign saying “Yes, I am a champagne socialist with no morals and a worrying fixation with consumer durables”
Posted by Leon McDermott at 11pm on 22.09.03
if you two didn’t actually get out more, i’d tell you to get more. subsite finally finito and propagating worldwide as i type. tomorrow a.m. should see us “going live” as gordon the gopher’s be-greyed chum pip schofield would say.
i also have a cam like el mot’s but it’s like a super 16 (not 8) and i can only get film from a small shop in nottingham . looks sleazily good nonchanantly hanging from my bedpost tho.
when the subsite gets up feel free to hit me with opinions, it’s a bit flashy but frames are sorted for the mo and RSS feeds on way, as are bar coded passes, ticketing and kittens style stuff. woo. woo. ooh and globe map knicked of mot and a pic gallery.
wow. g’night.
Posted by g.ape at 2am on 23.09.03
Woo!
I can’t get the talk section to work though… dying to get the first post like the saddo I am!
Oh, and are we allowed to say ‘kittens’? Watch out for virtual molatov cocktails from Stir!
Posted by Jack at 2pm on 23.09.03
I can’t get any of it to work, at least, not from that link in the reading section; jjust tells me the server’s not found.
Posted by Leon at 3pm on 23.09.03
Yeah, they changed since I posted. Link now fixed. Don’t bother looking in Safari - quite a few glitches…
Posted by Jack at 3pm on 23.09.03
Both a fine set of photographs…
Leon - the first photograph is stunning, did you use your digital camera?…
the colour of the sky is unreal…the photo reminds me of something i can’t quite figure…maybe some of Zaha Hadid’s work…
i feel inspired to take some photos of my own next week
Posted by brat at 3pm on 25.09.03
The first photo was indeed taken with my digital camera (as was the third). I’ve scanned a whole load of other pictures, as well, that I took with an SLR, and some with a Lomo; hopefully they’re going to go up here soon…
Posted by Leon McDermott at 12am on 26.09.03
Soon-ish, soon-ish… I’m going to wait for Janet and Guy to supply pics before getting on with the Photoshop/upload nightmare.
Your work scanner puts a funny pink-ish cast on things, btw. Most annoying, as I’ve completely forgotten the ways of the ‘shop since I last used it regualrly in the mid-90s…
Posted by Jack at 1pm on 26.09.03
Hmmm. That might be attributable to my scan-in-haste technique more than anything, and not bothering to fiddle with levels/contrast etc ‘cause, well, I couldn’t be arsed and was in a bit of a rush. If there are any which are particuarly sketchy, though, let me know and I’ll get them rescanned.
Posted by Leon at 2pm on 26.09.03
Is Isi Metzstein Saul’s dad, then?
Posted by Hannah at 5pm on 30.09.03
Dunno. There can’t be that many Metztein’s in Scotland, I don’t suppose…
Posted by Jack at 5pm on 30.09.03
i m ashir and from pakistan (an islami country) and we have not religiouse freedom here because we are christians .and i want to do some great work for the people of jesuse christ.so there for i am applaing for ur institute.
Posted by ashir yousaf masih at 4pm on 05.07.06