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Submit Response is a weblog by Jack Mottram, a journalist who lives in Glasgow, Scotland. There are 1308 posts in the archives. You can subscribe to a feed. This post was made on September 21, 2003 and belongs in the photographs category. The previous post was Security And Bob, and the next post is Queer Wireless.

St. Peter’s Seminary

Yes­ter­day, Leon, myself and our friends Guy and Eleanor took a trip to St. Peter’s Sem­i­nary at Cardross. Now derelict, the Sem­i­nary was some­thing of a mod­ernist archi­tec­tural marvel, built in the 1960s and designed by Isi Met­zstein of Gille­spie, Kidd and Coia.

We took a lot of pho­tographs, chat­ted to some lads who spend their evenings swig­ging Buck­fast on the altar and got a wee bit spooked by the sin­is­ter atmos­phere. Great fun.

So far, there’s only a few pho­tographs online. All mine, all taken with a Lomo, but once all the devel­op­ing and scan­ning is done, we should have a nice little col­lec­tion for you all to look at, along with as much infor­ma­tion on the Sem­i­nary as we can gather together.

Posted at 7pm on 21/09/03 by Jack Mottram to the photographs category.
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  1. Oh, and I think I first came across St. Peter’s thanks to the work of Toby Pater­son - an inter­view with him has inex­plic­a­bly been lan­guish­ing in Draft status limbo in the Submit Response data­base since April. It is now online (sev­er­ley trun­cated, unfor­tu­nately, thanks to poten­tially career-​harming com­ments from Toby!)

    Posted by Jack at 7pm on 21.09.03

  2. [this is good]…still trying to save for a lomo…

    Posted by brat at 1pm on 22.09.03

  3. Are they a lot? I mailed the bloke at the Joy of Con­crete site about the St. Peter’s pics, and he mailed back saying he acci­den­tally went and spent £500 on stuff from the Lomo site after look­ing at them!

    I, er, kinda sorta stole the two I have - you can borrow one if you like, at some vague point in the future when I get it back from the person I just lent it to…

    Posted by Jack at 3pm on 22.09.03

  4. And what’s that weird little image doing next to your name?

    Posted by Jack at 3pm on 22.09.03

  5. Duh, it’s thanks to the custom stylesheet I use in this browser. I really need one of those ‘memories’ things that other people seem to find so useful.

    Posted by Jack at 3pm on 22.09.03

  6. i feel rude interupt­ing this con­ver­sa­tion with yourself*…hehe

    i don’t think the lomo lca are that expen­sive, mind you they have upped the price alot over the years…

    it’s one of those items i’ve wanted to buy for years, and just never got round to indulging myself…

    lovely photo’s, thanks for the kind offer but i move to london this friday…maybe i’ll treat myself when i get a new job…

    hmm maybe i need to get off the net, stop think­ing about cam­eras and start pack­ing boxes

    Posted by brat at 3pm on 22.09.03

  7. Ooh, moving house. With any luck I’ll be doing that myself soon. Not far, though. I don’t like living more than 30 sec­onds walk from my beloved Kelv­in­grove Park. Hee.

    I would really rec­c­om­mend get­ting a Lomo, as they do pro­duce really beau­ti­ful images, espe­cially when your not trying - the Lomo Kom­pact Automat is the one to go for, but the lomog­ra­phy site is asking €180 (what’s that? about £120?) which takes the piss for what is, in effect, a crap camera. You can get a second hand one on eBay for £64 just now, though.

    Also drool-​worthy is the Lomo Lubi­tel 166B TLR, a medium format cheapie that I kinda-​sorta want but will never buy. Appar­ently quite a respectable camera, despite being made of plas­tic, and dirt cheap if you can find one. Not exactly a Has­sle­blad, like, but interesting…

    Any­ways, fuck this still shit, I’m all about moving images from next week when my PXL 2000 arrives. To say that I’m incred­i­bly, mas­sively, totally, bru­tally super-​mega-​hyper-​excited about this pur­chase is an understatement!

    Posted by Jack at 5pm on 22.09.03

  8. It’s just a fuck­ing toy camera, you big Nathan Barley. And no I’m not jeal­ous at all. Honest.

    Posted by Leon at 5pm on 22.09.03

  9. wow…it looks like some­thing from ‘back to the future’…thats a good thing!

    Posted by brat at 6pm on 22.09.03

  10. It’s HUGE as well, and GREY and PLAS­TIC. God, I can­not­fuck­ing­wait for it to arrive.

    I think I might need a lie down. And per­haps a soft whim­per to myself as I muse on the beauty of a uni­verse in which such things exist.

    And less of yer Nathan Barley slurs, Leon. You’re named after Trot­sky and wear Dolce & Gab­bana glasses, so you do. Although, to be fair, I must indeed admit to being a sad old Barley-​chops. Now where did I leave that Lomo? Oh, there it is: beneath my knit­ting, next to the mesh cap, beside my Patrick Wolf album. Miaow.

    Posted by Jack at 9pm on 22.09.03

  11. Holds up con­fes­sional sign saying “Yes, I am a cham­pagne social­ist with no morals and a wor­ry­ing fix­a­tion with con­sumer durables”

    Posted by Leon McDermott at 11pm on 22.09.03

  12. if you two didn’t actu­ally get out more, i’d tell you to get more. sub­site finally finito and prop­a­gat­ing world­wide as i type. tomor­row a.m. should see us “going live” as gordon the gopher’s be-​greyed chum pip schofield would say.

    i also have a cam like el mot’s but it’s like a super 16 (not 8) and i can only get film from a small shop in not­ting­ham . looks sleazily good non­chanantly hang­ing from my bed­post tho.

    when the sub­site gets up feel free to hit me with opin­ions, it’s a bit flashy but frames are sorted for the mo and RSS feeds on way, as are bar coded passes, tick­et­ing and kit­tens style stuff. woo. woo. ooh and globe map knicked of mot and a pic gallery.

    wow. g’night.

    Posted by g.ape at 2am on 23.09.03

  13. Woo!

    I can’t get the talk sec­tion to work though… dying to get the first post like the saddo I am!

    Oh, and are we allowed to say ‘kittens’? Watch out for vir­tual mola­tov cock­tails from Stir!

    Posted by Jack at 2pm on 23.09.03

  14. I can’t get any of it to work, at least, not from that link in the read­ing sec­tion; jjust tells me the server’s not found.

    Posted by Leon at 3pm on 23.09.03

  15. Yeah, they changed since I posted. Link now fixed. Don’t bother look­ing in Safari - quite a few glitches…

    Posted by Jack at 3pm on 23.09.03

  16. Both a fine set of photographs…

    Leon - the first pho­to­graph is stun­ning, did you use your dig­i­tal camera?…

    the colour of the sky is unreal…the photo reminds me of some­thing i can’t quite figure…maybe some of Zaha Hadid’s work…

    i feel inspired to take some photos of my own next week

    Posted by brat at 3pm on 25.09.03

  17. The first photo was indeed taken with my dig­i­tal camera (as was the third). I’ve scanned a whole load of other pic­tures, as well, that I took with an SLR, and some with a Lomo; hope­fully they’re going to go up here soon…

    Posted by Leon McDermott at 12am on 26.09.03

  18. Soon-​ish, soon-ish… I’m going to wait for Janet and Guy to supply pics before get­ting on with the Photoshop/upload nightmare.

    Your work scan­ner puts a funny pink-​ish cast on things, btw. Most annoy­ing, as I’ve com­pletely for­got­ten the ways of the ‘shop since I last used it regual­rly in the mid-90s…

    Posted by Jack at 1pm on 26.09.03

  19. Hmmm. That might be attrib­ut­able to my scan-​in-​haste tech­nique more than any­thing, and not both­er­ing to fiddle with levels/contrast etc ‘cause, well, I couldn’t be arsed and was in a bit of a rush. If there are any which are par­tic­uarly sketchy, though, let me know and I’ll get them rescanned.

    Posted by Leon at 2pm on 26.09.03

  20. Is Isi Met­zstein Saul’s dad, then?

    Posted by Hannah at 5pm on 30.09.03

  21. Dunno. There can’t be that many Metztein’s in Scot­land, I don’t suppose…

    Posted by Jack at 5pm on 30.09.03

  22. i m ashir and from pak­istan (an islami coun­try) and we have not reli­giouse free­dom here because we are chris­tians .and i want to do some great work for the people of jesuse christ.so there for i am applaing for ur institute.

    Posted by ashir yousaf masih at 4pm on 05.07.06

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