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iTunes 4 + iTunesdl = Filesharing Heaven

If you have iTunes 4, you’ll be want­ing to down­load iTunesdl. It let’s you down­load files to disk from iTunes users you’re shar­ing playlists with.

Here’s a screen­shot.

Update: Please note that I didn’t write this appli­ca­tion, and don’t know who did, and cer­tainly can’t answer your tech­ni­cal ques­tions via email!

Posted at 6pm on 08/05/03 by Jack Mottram to the mac category.
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  1. hey - that’s my library you’re in there!
    Wilkommen.

    Posted by Donna at 7pm on 08.05.03

  2. also check out Clut­ter for iTunes 4. It grabs an image of the cover of the album you are play­ing. You can stack them on your desk­top or add the image to the mp3.

    http://​sprote.​com/​c​l​utter

    Posted by alister at 10am on 09.05.03

  3. happy days…

    Posted by g.ape at 10am on 09.05.03

  4. indeed!

    i’ll have to check clut­ter as well - i’m get­ting irri­tated by the lack of art­work attached to my mp3s - god, i am a slave to marketing…

    Posted by Jack at 10am on 09.05.03

  5. I’m cur­rently in the middle of trans­fer­ring 20gb of tunes to my new ibook. once i get itunes 4 up and on the go, feel free to raid the archives over my fat work connection…

    Posted by Leon at 11am on 09.05.03

  6. are you just using the ibook in work instead of your iMac then? MIght as well, I guess.

    Posted by Jack at 11am on 09.05.03

  7. Not sure we’ll be able to share via iTunes at all, though - I assume your IT wonk won’t be up for open­ing port 3689 to let us in…

    Posted by Jack at 11am on 09.05.03

  8. No, I’m on my work mac, but I’m using the work con­nec­tion to leech soft­ware and down­load stuff to the ibook rather than do it via the steam-​powered home con­nec­tion. sus­pect you might be right about the shar­ing; there are all manner of fire­walls and the like here, though the IT guy’s hope­less, so I’ll give it a shot.

    Posted by Leon at 1pm on 09.05.03

  9. Nb. Judg­ing by a few refer­rals, some folk seem to think we’re respon­si­ble for this ace app. Not so, and I’m not sure who is - I just saw the direct down­load link in some forum or other…

    Posted by Jack at 1pm on 12.05.03

  10. just had to switch off (sorry chaps) iMac on slo mo protest. hmmm.

    Posted by Donna at 6pm on 12.05.03

  11. slow­ness unre­lated to iTunes sharing/iTdl - ah well. I shall figure it out shortly.

    Posted by Donna at 9pm on 12.05.03

  12. iAm­Busted

    By now it is obvi­ous that iTunes 4 is a smash hit with the peeps, but a new prob­lem is form­ing. The new soft­ware allows users to share their library with others by stream­ing the songs. This means that you

    Posted by Capn Design at 6pm on 14.05.03

  13. thanks for the itunesdl link.
    how do i find i con­nect to other users?
    i’ve never done this before

    Posted by rafael at 3am on 16.05.03

  14. Hi Rafael - try Share iTunes - I should be listed there under the title Mot’s Music.

    Posted by Jack at 8am on 16.05.03

  15. So, I love the sound of this, but how does iTunes DL work? I’ve found many libraries in Share iTunes that sound inter­est­ing, but how do I find the appro­pri­ate Host name to input into iTunes DL so I can down­load the songs? Right now, all I can do is copy a redi­rect adress onto my clip­board or share the list in iTunes 4.

    Posted by Scott at 5pm on 16.05.03

  16. When play­ing live streams using iTunes, rebuffer­ing often occurs, caus­ing pauses in songs. What hap­pens when a rebuffer­ing occurs while using iTunesDL? Are the copied songs ruined?

    Posted by Nick at 8pm on 16.05.03

  17. I think I pinched about half Jack’s library the other night. All present and cor­rect. Rebuffer­ing has no impact as far as I can tell.

    Posted by Donna at 10pm on 16.05.03

  18. There’s no buffer­ing, let alone rebuffer­ing, because you aren’t stream­ing the file, you’re down­load­ing it - just like down­load­ing off a web­site or what have you. I’ve nicked a couple of hun­dred files from folk, and all of them play fine. Or fine-​ish, given that 128kbps seems to be the stan­dard out there…

    Posted by Jack at 12am on 17.05.03

  19. Having trou­ble catch­ing DAAP addresses… .

    Posted by Plato Shrimp at 11pm on 17.05.03

  20. You have to be quick view­ing the source of the pop-​up on Share­iTunes, as they’ve added a line of javascript to close the pop-​up, pre­sum­ably to deter the likes of us!

    Posted by Jack at 12pm on 18.05.03

  21. hi does any­body know how to use dl i can’t seem to con­nect because i don’t know what to type could some­one pls take a second to help us.

    THANKS

    Posted by ASDA at 6pm on 18.05.03

  22. Not quite sure what you mean. To con­nect to my library, for exam­ple, type sub​mitre​sponse.​no-​ip.org into the Host field, then hit connect… ask other people for their IP addresses and do the same.

    Posted by Jack at 11pm on 18.05.03

  23. hey does anyone know of any other apps that do sim­i­lar things? i think it would be per­fect if some­one wrote an app that worked IN itunes4, so that while you were stream­ing you could crtl+click and get the option to down­load, now that would be awsome!!

    Posted by mac at 12am on 19.05.03

  24. I read all the com­ments above. Still I couldn’t find out where to find DAAP addresses.
    Help des­per­ately needed ;-)

    Posted by buckwheat at 8pm on 21.05.03

  25. http://​www.​share​itunes.com

    When there click on a share… then when the pop up is open do a right mouse click real quick and VIEW SOURCE. The address will look as follows…

    setTimeout(“top.location = "daap://12-208-87-186.client.attbi.com/"”, 2000);

    you want the address AFTER the daap

    moo

    Posted by iCow at 2am on 23.05.03

  26. Share​iTunes.com doesnt let you view the daap address any longer, it just reverts to a .php com­mand that goes to a site id and then it goes straight to iTunes..

    some­times, usu­ally when it has a hard time con­nect­ing, iTunes shows the IP address of the server, or compter you are trying to con­nect to.. but when its all smooth, it doesn’t let you view the IP..

    is there any way to view what IP’s you are con­nect­ing to, through iTunes or any other means, i.e. Ter­mi­nal, a script, etc?

    thanks

    dank

    Posted by dank at 12am on 10.06.03

  27. Well, I might JUST have what you’re all asking for…
    I read this some­where on the web (well, I used google to seek this info in fact) so don’t grant me for any­thing, you could have found it on your own…

    1°) Open a con­nec­tion to a server using your favorite web site (so far I only know of two : share​itunes.com and itune​share.org)
    2°) Start to listen to ANY song listed here
    3°) Open the Ter­mi­nal
    4°) Type : sudo tcp­dump -qtn port 3689 (copy & paste it)
    5°) Enter the admin­is­tra­tor password

    And that’s it. You’ll get quite a lot of infor­ma­tion here. Basi­cally it will show packet IPs in and out of your com­puter for the port 3689 (aka “daap://”). So you’ll notice two IPs, your and the one to the server.

    Ho, and don’t forget the last step :

    6°) CTRL-C !

    Or the packet list­ing will go on and on, and on, and on…

    Of course, if you’re already con­nected to a server either down­load­ing or lis­ten­ing to music on the port 3689, when typing the com­mand in the Ter­mi­nal, you’ll get even more IPs ! Try to remem­ber which one is yours at least.

    I love the Ter­mi­nal. I just wish some­one could make a script that would show the IPs with­out open­ing and typing all this. A sort of automa­tion after all… Anyone gifted with pro­gram­ming skills in here ?

    Posted by Romain at 4pm on 16.06.03

  28. Well,

    even sim­plier than what I just explained above :

    1°) Con­nect to a library with iTunes using your favorite web­site.
    2°) Open the Ter­mi­nal
    3°) Type : lsof | grep iTunes

    That’s it. The IP your con­nected will be listed with : “(ESTABLISHED)” next to it.

    Posted by Romain at 5pm on 16.06.03

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    EETimes: Super­com­puter bench­marks to be over­hauled by 2006 An app called Ren­dezvous Proxy allows you to trick your com­puter into think­ing that any for­eign host is local to your subnet. This means you can share music with iTunes and access other rendezv…

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