Submit Response is a weblog by Jack Mottram, a Best. Excuse. Ever.
This has to be the best excuse ever. One Andrew Carlssin has been arrested on insider-trading charges, after turning an initial investment of $800 into $350 million in two weeks. In his defence, he claims to be a time traveller from the year 2256.
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I saw that on yahoo this morning. Much as I’d love to believe it, having watched 12 Monkeys again the other night, it’s nonsense, I think. Do a googlenews on it, and you get no results. Plus, according to yahoo, it’s from the Weekly World News.
Posted by Leon at 4pm on 28.03.03
Still, if I was going to get busted for $350m of insider trading, I’m sure I’d be thinking up a pretty good excuse.
Posted by Leon at 4pm on 28.03.03
Hee, I preempted you with my title tag!
Posted by jack mottram at 4pm on 28.03.03
Also, it’s not the best excuse ever - ‘I was on the moon. With Steve.’ is the best excuse ever.
Posted by Jack at 4pm on 28.03.03
Ach, I never read that.
Posted by Leon at 5pm on 28.03.03
As A writer of fantasy novels who has just completed a novel called “Ancients of tomorrow”
(The task of the Hostorian)
All I can say is perhaps his so called excuse is quite believable we are in this time still very primitive
you better believe we will travle in time, lets face it my hero Saved NY and london from Nuclear attack on 9-13 just 48 hours after the 9-11 which is a diversion and the date he came from is the year 7007.
“All things are Possible”
Just a rhyme
For thinking Time
Making love or making war
Family home or lands afar
Deeds done today
Results do last
Are we the vandals
of our children’s past ?.
Hugh C Gray 2002
Posted by Hugh C Gray at 2pm on 31.03.03
As A writer of fantasy novels who has just completed a novel called “Ancients of tomorrow”
(The task of the Hostorian)
All I can say is perhaps his so called excuse is quite believable we are in this time still very primitive
you better believe we will travle in time, lets face it my hero Saved NY and london from Nuclear attack on 9-13 just 48 hours after the 9-11 which is a diversion and the date he came from is the year 7007.
“All things are Possible”
Just a rhyme
For thinking Time
Making love or making war
Family home or lands afar
Deeds done today
Results do last
Are we the vandals
of our children’s past ?.
Hugh C Gray
Posted by Hugh C Gray at 2pm on 31.03.03
As A writer of fantasy novels who has just completed a novel called “Ancients of tomorrow”
(The task of the Hostorian)
All I can say is perhaps his so called excuse is quite believable we are in this time still very primitive
you better believe we will travle in time, lets face it my hero Saved NY and london from Nuclear attack on 9-13 just 48 hours after the 9-11 which is a diversion and the date he came from is the year 7007.
“All things are Possible”
Posted by Hugh C Gray at 2pm on 31.03.03
As A writer of fantasy novels who has just completed a novel called “Ancients of tomorrow”
(The task of the Hostorian)
All I can say is perhaps his so called excuse is quite believable we are in this time still very primitive
you better believe we will travel in time,
Posted by Hugh C Gray at 2pm on 31.03.03
As A writer of fantasy novels who has just completed a novel called “Ancients of tomorrow”
(The task of the Hostorian)
All I can say is perhaps his so called excuse is quite believable we are in this time still very primitive
you better believe we will travel in time,
Posted by Hugh C Gray at 2pm on 31.03.03
I did a search on Google and nothing came up.
Time Travel?? interesting excuse.
All I wanna know is what was in his stock portfolio??
Posted by Michele at 7pm on 31.03.03
did you reall have to post the same thing 5 times, hugh?? i will avoid your book like the plague…
Posted by steve at 11am on 01.04.03
I couldn’t work out if Hugh was making an obscure joke about time travel through weblog commenting, or if he’s just a crap spam bot…
Posted by Jack at 11am on 01.04.03
We on the Internet know about Andrew
Carlssin — but how about the news
media at large? I have heard nothing
on the radio or TV.
It’s very possible the guy is a fake.
Yet, what he says could be true as well.
The facts seem to stack up in Mr. Carlssin’s favor. First and foremost is
the fact that no-one can get any record of him before December, 2000. NO records at all! Second — it is mentioned that he invested in SEVERAL
companies. How could he get insider information on all of them? (This is unlike Martha Stewart, and the executives of Enron and Worldcom, who each had insider info on just ONE corporation.
Why do9esn’t the federal govern-
ment at least get the information on
Osama bin Laden and the eradication
of AIDS, first — and then, if they
check out, let Mr. Carlssin go? If
they don’t do this, one can only
sadly draw the conclusion that the
rumours (that the government LET 9.11
happen, because it plans to instate
a totalitarian regime, and needed a
focal point, so we’d all agree to
have our liberties severely curtailed),
are true. Yet — IF they are true,
and Mr. Carlssin is indeed a time-
traveller — wouldn’t he know this?
And iof he knew this, why would he
chose to come in at THIS particular
time? (Didn’t he have any suspicion, should the rumors be true, that he’d
probably be arrested — and that the
government might thus not really
want to know where Osama bin Laden
is, as all — as this would diminish
public fears? (As for AIDS — the
research and maintenance for this
ailment has grown into a billion-
dollar industry. Curing it would
not please the rich pharmaceutical
companies — who give political con-
tributions! (And of course, the
poor people afflicted by AIDS are
usually not rich political contrib-
utors, so…..to those who believe
in social Darwinism……sadly, they
are not accounted to be as “valu-
able.” A direwct — and anger-induc-
ing — contradiction to the US Con-
stitution — but, sadly, the real
truth, in some (very powerful!)
people’s minds………
Yet, if Andrew Carlssin IS from
the future — why did he choose to
come in 2000 or so? If he wanted to
get rich, why now> If I were he, I
would have come in 1929 — in January
or February — and invested in bullion
gold, (then legal), and left a few
months prior to the ‘29 crash later
that year. THEN I would have gone
to any time period that I preferred.
I wonder why Mr. Carlssin picked
THIS time to come to — as government
computers are up and running, and
quite sophisticated enough to catch
a suspicious Wall Street wiz. (There
WERE no cumputers — or perhaps, only
rudimentary ones — in 1929. For me,
that wpuld have been a far better
time to travel to! (And/or the boom-
ing 1950s, where — if gold was not
legal — much money could still be
made by investing in the burgeoning
fledgling TV stations and networks.
And — people were so much more
OPTIMISTIC then……
I predict that Mr. Carlssin will
go down as one of History’s Great
Question Marks — like Caspar Hauser.
It’s too bad none of the major net-
works or newspapers seems to want to
interview him. (And/or are they not
being allowed to by the governmenbt?)
Also — if Mr. Carlssin’s records
here start in December, 2000 — why
didn’t he go at least to the “fringe”
press — and warn everyone about
9/11/01?
I just hope somehow, Mr. Carlssin
will find some way to eventually
exhonerate himself — and be inter-
viewed by someone like Barbara Wakters
or Diane Sawyer. (Broadcas5 TV,
please — EVERYONE deserves to hear
this.)
At any rate, Mr. Carlssin’s claim
of coming here from 200 years in the
future, does gfve me hope. Hope that
there will eventually BE a future in
200 years. And one sophisticated
enough to have time-machines.
Perhaps, therefore, we are NOT destined
to blow ourselves up, after all!
Posted by Alexandra at 12pm on 01.04.03
9/11 killed directly only 5000 people..that’s not a lot if you think of it as a whole. WW2 saw the deaths of around 100.000.000 people so 5000 is regrettable but not much.
Posted by Daabuu at 3pm on 01.04.03
Wow talk about a great early April fools joke.
Posted by Steve R at 7pm on 01.04.03
One can say at this time that this is more than blind luck having turned $800.00 into $350 million on over 120 trades in just two weeks…Not even insider trading could produce these kinds of results on so many different trades…however, there seems to be some holes in Carlssins alibi…1)Why come back at this moment in time unless we are in for a big growth explosion in the global economic economy,why not as someone else wrote the ’20s or even the ‘late ‘90’s? to make a killing in the market? 2) If he is offering up OSAMA why not Saddam?Why offer cure for aids Why not Cancer when Cancer kills many more unless they haven’t found the cure for that yet? 3)Finally give me the stock or futures picks that he was going to place investments on that he didn’t get a chance to submit. I could use a little luck like this. Truly an enigma at this critical time in world history… This will be talked about for years once the media get a hold of it!Steve G.,Pembroke Pines,Fl.
Posted by Steve G. at 8pm on 01.04.03
One can say at this time that this is more than blind luck having turned $800.00 into $350 million on over 120 trades in just two weeks…Not even insider trading could produce these kinds of results on so many different trades…however, there seems to be some holes in Carlssins alibi…1)Why come back at this moment in time unless we are in for a big growth explosion in the global economic economy,why not as someone else wrote the ’20s or even the ‘late ‘90’s? to make a killing in the market? 2) If he is offering up OSAMA why not Saddam?Why offer cure for aids Why not Cancer when Cancer kills many more unless they haven’t found the cure for that yet? 3)Finally give me the stock or futures picks that he was going to place investments on that he didn’t get a chance to submit. I could use a little luck like this. Truly an enigma at this critical time in world history… This will be talked about for years once the media get a hold of it!Steve G.,Pembroke Pines,Fl.
Posted by Steve G. at 8pm on 01.04.03
I think that this COULD be true, because if we did, eventually make a time machine in the future, why not go back in time? it may look like science fiction to us now, but so was walking on the moon, and sending satellites to space…. IF this story is even true, it would be hidden from the public, and if it was, why is it on Yahoo!? and why did it have to be the Weekly World News, it was credible until they mentioned that paper… or maybe it is just an April Fools Joke, at any rate, I think if we did make a time machine, we would go back in time and prevent major catastrophes (ever seen timecop?) maybe in the future, 9/11 is seen as a day of discovery, where we finally realize we need to end terrorism, so they didn’t stop it… maybe they HAVE been stopping major things, we just never learn about them because they don’t happen… interesting right?
Posted by Boris at 8pm on 01.04.03
The myth of the infinite audience, or where are all the time travellers?
If time travel becomes possible, some events will be prime time-tourist destinations, so where are the thronging crowds of slightly weird looking future-folks? The crucifixion wasn’t that well attended and even I wouldn’t mind a gawp at that.
If any time travellers are reading this in the future, and want a safe-house with contemporary clothing / artifacts / money etc. (these things will be priceless antiques in the year 2256) I was Piccadilly Circus Underground Station at 5pm yesterday.
Posted by Keith Collins at 10pm on 01.04.03
The following entry was made by Laura at http://www.asiam.com.
“I got so mad yesterday from this stupid time traveler story that I wrote about a few days ago. I had no idea it was that popular. I was, probably still am getting 1000 hits per hour and people were leaving rude comments about how pitiful my life was etc etc.. I’m not giving into their feelings. I will continue blogging; I thought yesterday maybe it was better if I stopped but I realized how much I love it and I love my blogging friends. We’ve been there for each other and I am not going to give up because of some weak, unhappy people.
I will wait until my blog stops coming up in searches for this particular name.. then I will put my comments back…”
Now,
After looking through many hopeful, and some incredibly stupid (Alexandra) entries regarding this apparent “time traveller” I am left with 4 blinding and obvious questions.
Do people Really think something like 9.11 was never going happen? -regardless of whether the American government wanted it (silly totalitarian regime theory…)
Would anyone that is capable of time travel need money? I mean really. And if so, there would be much easier ways to get cash for a man that can travel in time. Rob a bank, put the money in your time craft, go back in time and rob it again and again. or something similar. use your imagination (like Laura did)
AIDS is a virus. There is no cure for any virus that mankind has ever known. Vaccines for viruses, yes. But a man from the future, knowing the molecular composition for the vaccine for AIDS? come on people.
And lastly, and most hard to understand for many simple minded .net freaks: our galaxy is spinning quite quickly. Our solar system is moving along with it. The earth is rotating and revolving the sun. 5 minutes ago the spot where I am standing on earth now, was hundreds, maybe thousands of miles away, relatively speaking. Supposing I Wanted to travel 200+ years into the past. Where in the world would I emerge into that time-space? Most likely, in deep, cold, space somewhere. Light years away from Wall Street. :)
Much love to conspiracy theories. I just wish there were less theories, and more facts.
Posted by Tony at 10pm on 01.04.03
Haven’t seen this story from any reliable news source. I think it’s a nice little piece of fiction. If someone came back in time to trade why would he come to a time with a depressed market?
Posted by Mark at 10pm on 01.04.03
That story would have been more entertaining if it had included a stock quote for the suckers.
Posted by Tuesday at 10pm on 01.04.03
Can he still make accurate stock predictions, being cut off from sources?
Wouldn’t $350M be chump change in the future?
Posted by sox at 12pm on 02.04.03
Hate to burst ya’lls bubble
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,630-627115,00.html
“Alas, it is merely one of the better internet myths. The SEC has never heard of Carlssin, and several âfactsâ are plainly untrue.”
Posted by sox at 12pm on 02.04.03
Sox - thanks for the link. I think we cleared this up in the first couple of comments, but no one noticed: the World Weekly News is not a reliable news source!
Posted by Jack at 12pm on 02.04.03
Lets look at this logically…
all the information in question is held in the databanks of a computer somewhere.
Information on mergers (possibly the most availble)
AIDS Cure (If it exists, it has to be stored on a computer)
Osamas location (You really think that noone in this world knows where he is? and if they knew, do yuo think they would keep it scribbled on a notepad? Nope… probably on a pc)
anyway… all this to say that someone who has the technical know-how to hack into several high-security company computers will probably have the same luck at finding the other info…
Posted by DRWEIRD77 at 6pm on 02.04.03
oh mammy, help me, luna tuna…
Posted by Donna at 9pm on 02.04.03
how would the fbi determine he is 44 years old if he had no existance until dec. 2002?
Posted by genius at 3pm on 03.04.03
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,630-627115,00.html
This might shed some light on yet another internet hoax. It was an entertaining story, but did anyone question the fact that the Weekly World News published it? That tabloid that most people pass up at the checkout aisle is apparently a trusted source of news on the internet, swallowed hook, line & sinker.
Who’d have thunk it?
Posted by Iconoclast at 4pm on 12.04.03
You people are a bunch of losers!
Posted by Losers! at 9pm on 16.04.03
And would’nt he have told us about the North korean Invasion that was underway right now.
They have been infiltrating us for years
and are ready to pounce.
p.42
Posted by dood at 8pm on 17.04.03
And would’nt he have told us about the North korean Invasion that was underway right now.
They have been infiltrating us for years
and are ready to pounce.
p.42
Posted by dood at 8pm on 17.04.03
Assuming time travel were possible…
The solutions, such as historical facts and medical/scientific knowledge, would only partially be available to him via a modern day tool(laptop). Most of the knowledge would most likely be stored in his “time craft“‘s computer systems.
Assuming he is from the future…
Would he be a carrier for a future plague? A future super flu? Is he responsible for SARS?
Assuming time travel is possible…
Why haven’t more people come? Or has the mere act of him coming prevented anyone else from doing so as well? Ie, changing the future.
In either case… if it’s true, then it is quite interesting and fantastic. If it is a hoax/myth/etc… then it is good for a laugh and a half.
Posted by Anonymous Oddity at 10pm on 17.04.03
How but you stop talking about it and find out if the story is true. Here’s the authors name, address, and phone number call him up and ask if the story is ficition.
Kultgen, Chad
5391 /2 Glenrck Ave
Westwood, CA 90024
(310) 209-5147
Posted by Anarc at 5am on 18.04.03
How but you stop talking about it and find out if the story is true. Here’s the authors name, address, and phone number call him up and ask if the story is ficition.
Kultgen, Chad
5391 /2 Glenrck Ave
Westwood, CA 90024
(310) 209-5147
Posted by Anarc at 5am on 18.04.03
Anarc - I’m pretty sure everyone is certain the story is nonsense - it was in the weekly world news after all - but I have no problem with people continuing to chat about time travel in this thread.
Posted by Jack at 12pm on 18.04.03
Just thought I’d my own two cents.
An article like this is onyl getting attention because it was on Yahoo News. And if you think they are a reputable news service in any way, i think this article clearly demonstrates the worthlessness of their reporting.
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/wwn/20030410/104998680005.html
Posted by jo at 11pm on 21.04.03
This is bogus and here are reasons why I think :
He claims to know the whereabouts of Osama Bin Laden and the Cure for AIDS. Yet, he claims he’s from the year 2256. How could he have such specific knowledge. Even if there is a cure for AIDS and we do find Bin Laden, I don’t think your average guy in the year 2256 can go around reciting the actual cure for AIDS and historical locations. I live in 2003 and I know we have a cure for scarlet fever, but I can’t tell you off the top of my head how to make the cure. I also wouldn’t be able to tell you where Bin Laden is 200+ after we caught him cause i wouldn’t care enough to remember.
The fact that he is time-travelling and changing his history goes against all logic. Doesn’t this now forever change the future he is from? How can we ever create a machine that can twist fate like this. I believe we can one day create a time machine, but a machine that will take us to the past, un allowing us to get involved with history. Otherwise, there should be people popping up all over the place (i.e. ancestors, historians, Evil villians who want to take over the world :)
I would think someone who came from the future would want to reveal much more important or devastating information than the whereabouts of a terrorist and a cure for one of many uncurable disease we have today.
Who the heck would wanna live 200 years in the past?! And, as someone pointed out before, I’m sure 350 million isn’t going to even be worth that much, and even if it is, who’s to say that that will even be our currency? OR even if this country will even be around (not to sound anti-american or anything, just being realistic of all posibilities)?
Posted by Shahien at 8am on 22.04.03
I almost got drawn in by this story, until I noticed that, even though it was on Yahoo, it was in their Weekly World News section, the wonderful honest people who brought us BatBoy and “I married Bigfoot”
So the point of arguing it is rather moot IMHO
-Speaker
Posted by Speaker at 4am on 23.04.03
Weekly World News makes up nearly all their material. Who can forget Bat Boy, and “the Alien” that’s met every elected U.S. President since Ronald Reagan (perhaps even Jimmy Carter!).
As a researcher who has done extensive study of the science behind time travel, parallel universes, etc., I’ve found the issues raised here to be typical of the fare one runs across when the topic of time travel is raised. There are also very simple, practical answers to them as well, which I go into in depth in my upcoming book “Solving the 4th D Puzzle”, due out early this summer.
Not having much time to post on message boards, I am open to discussing time travel issues with those that care to, at my email address.
Posted by Marshall Barnes at 11pm on 23.04.03
If he knew everything about the past he should know that in the year 2003 a certain Andrew Carlssin was arrested… :-)
Posted by Sidnei Cabral at 11pm on 25.04.03
This story is true! Just saw CNN do a story on Carlssin about how he did not turn up for his court hearing and is either in hiding or missing… Wake up people, the government has tried to bury this story by putting out hoax stories, like the one about the woman who made up the incident. This brings our whole world into question - will we be seeing more and more time travellers???
Posted by yomama at 12pm on 21.08.03
hI THAT IS AS GOOD AN EXCUSE AS YOU CAN GET.
AND IF YOU BELIVE THAT THEN YOU WILL BELIEVE HIME TO BE INNOCENT
aND WHEN pOLITICIANS SAY THEY WORK FOR YOOU AND THERE ARE FAIRIES AT THE BOTTOME OF THE GARDEN..
THEN YOU WILL BELIVE ANYTHING AND SHOULD BE LOCKED UP .
( FOR YOUR OWN GOOD )
I GUESS YOU VOTED FOR BUSH OR IF A TOTAL NUT
YOU WOULD VOTE FOR OBAMA HA
NAH FOR THAT ONE THEY DONT LOCK YOU UP THEY PUT YOU DOWN,,,
ONLY OPHERA IS THAT SILLY
Posted by Hugh C Gray at 3am on 20.12.07