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Submit Response is a weblog by Jack Mottram, a journalist who lives in Glasgow, Scotland. There are 1308 posts in the archives. You can subscribe to a feed. This post was made on November 10, 2005 and belongs in the site news category. The previous post was , and the next post is .

Safari Wonkiness Debugging Favour Request

I have a little favour to ask.

When I load Submit Response in Safari, the text at the top of each page (‘Submit Response is Jack Mottram’s weblog &tc.’) briefly flashes into view, then dis­ap­pears. All is well in Firefox.

Since my copy of Safari is pretty heav­ily tweaked with Pith Helmet and Saft (both highly rec­om­mended) and a userContent.css file so con­vo­luted I have no idea what it’s doing any more, I’m guess­ing these cus­tomi­sa­tions are to blame in some way, but it might just be a bug in Safari 2.0.2.

So before I start dig­ging through all the pref­er­ences for those plu­g­ins, could some­one using the latest ver­sion of Safari, un-​tweaked, let me know in the com­ments to this entry, or via email, whether they see the intro­duc­tory text on this page just fine, or whether it appears and dis­s­a­pears? And if folk using Saft and/or Pith Helmet could let me know what they see too, that’d be great.

(Fun­nily enough, I actu­ally quite like the way the page looks with­out that header, and I’m not happy with the lengthy footer, so this prob­lem might inspire a bijoux redesignette to make the site even more stripped down! Also, this is what I use Pith Helmet for:- its Machete fea­ture allows you to make all your favourite sites look as calmly plain/tediously ugly as this place. The web is a very black, white, blue and image-​free place for me nowa­days. Web 0.1, not Web 2.0!)

Update: After con­tact­ing Hao Li, the devel­oper of Saft, it turns out all I needed to do was turn off the ‘Block Ad/Banners’ option that Saft adds to the Safari menu, which I’d never noticed before. (Since Pith Helmet takes care of ad-​blocking and I use Saft for it’s type-​ahead search­ing, URL short­cuts and ugly metal window-​removing fea­tures, I shouldn’t see any more ads than I was. I hope.)

Posted at 10am on 10/11/05 by Jack Mottram to the site news category.
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  1. The intro text appears imme­di­ately when load­ing the page and stays vis­i­ble as expected; Safari 2.0.2 on Tiger 10.4.3.

    Posted by Matt Gemmell at 11am on 10.11.05

  2. I’m using Saft (Safari on OS X 10.3.9) and it looks fine to me. When did it start going wonky?

    Posted by MacDara at 12pm on 10.11.05

  3. Looks fine to me. (My Safari is as pure as the wind-​driven snow.)

    Posted by Dave HS at 12pm on 10.11.05

  4. I’ve got Safari 2.0.2 and Saft 8.1.7 Demo installed, and the text appears fine for me.

    Posted by Nick Taylor at 12pm on 10.11.05

  5. I know its not the latest, but it looks fine in Safari 1.3.1

    Posted by alister at 2pm on 10.11.05

  6. Thanks everyone!

    Looks like it’s down to a con­flict between Saft and Pith Helmet (all is well with one or the other, together the wonk­i­ness occurs) but it’s a strange error, to be sure. Sup­pose I have to decide whether Machete is more impor­tant than type-​ahead search­ing, no metal win­dows, etc…

    When did it start going wonky?

    I’m not sure - I don’t ever really look at the site unless I’m leav­ing a com­ment! I sus­pect it must’ve been after I installed the updated ver­sions of the the two plu­g­ins just after 2.0.2 came out…

    Posted by Jack Mottram at 3pm on 10.11.05

  7. If find-​as-​you-​type and the non-​metal win­dows are the killer rea­sons for saft, you can get the former with fiwt and the latter … er, well, there’s a ton of the­mers out there, but the only one I both­ered with was uno, because its sole pur­pose is to make every­thing con­sis­tent. Which is nice.

    Posted by Allan Donald at 1am on 11.11.05

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