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Submit Response is a weblog by Jack Mottram, a journalist who lives in Glasgow, Scotland. There are 1303 posts in the archives. You can subscribe to a feed. This post was made on March 3, 2004 and belongs in the misc. category. The previous post was The Fashion Model, and the next post is Assorted Misc. Images.

Begging The Question

In the last two days, I have heard on BBC Radio 4 (motto: Intel­li­gent Speech) no less than four instances of the term ‘begging the question’ being used incorrectly.

One - although I was half asleep at the time and can’t be com­pletely sure - seemed to come from the mouth of John Humphrys who, as a noted cham­pion of Lynne Truss’ Eats, Shoots & Leaves, the pop­u­lar paean to lin­guis­tic pedantry, should bloody well know better.

Much as I would love to give in to the temp­ta­tion to run amok with an axe in Broad­cast­ing House, it is prob­a­bly better to explain why this drives me into a froth­ing homi­ci­dal rage.

Beg­ging the ques­tion - oth­er­wise known as Peti­tio Prin­cipii, or the deduc­tive fal­lacy of cir­cu­lar­ity, or the fal­lacy of pre­sump­tion - is not a hard con­cept to grasp, but a slightly tricky one to explain: in short, one begs the ques­tion when one cites as a premise that which assumes the con­clu­sion to be true. For example:

A is true because B is true, and B is true because A is true.

Or, with a dash of complexity:

X is true because Y is true, and Y is true because Z is true, and Z is true because X is true.

So, if some­one responds to a ques­tion you have asked with an answer that prompts a fur­ther ques­tion, it is absolutely not fuck­ing cor­rect to gibber, “Well, that rather begs the question…” as a means of intro­duc­ing your sec­ondary inquiry. What you ought really to say is, “Well, that rather raises the question…”

Okay?

Good.

Any errors of style, gram­mar, punc­tu­a­tion or spelling you may find in the above are, of course, wholly deliberate.

Posted at 6pm on 03/03/04 by Jack Mottram to the misc. category.
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  1. Fab! I thought my guy was the only one who gets pissed off at this ;)

    Posted by Anne at 5pm on 05.03.04

  2. Good to hear of another chronic pedant!

    To be honest, though, I’m more upset by the horror of ‘imply’ and ‘infer’ being used inter­change­ably than this - espe­cially since the incor­rect usage is sup­pos­edly legit­imised by both Collins and Miriam-Webster’s dic­tio­nar­ies. The blood boils just think­ing about it.

    (But I must admit I’m guilty of some dread­ful apos­tro­phe abuse myself, espe­cially in quick emails.)

    Posted by Jack at 6pm on 05.03.04

  3. ‘one begs a ques­tion when one cites as a premise that which assumes the con­clu­sion to be true’ - I’m sorry, I don’t under­stand that. Please use ‘begging the question’ in a sen­tence for me so that I can be less stupid.

    Inci­den­tally, your apos­tro­phe abuse is not as offen­sive as your ten­dency to spell the word ‘weird’ as ‘wierd.’ (shudder.)

    Posted by bunnyboiler at 2pm on 07.03.04

  4. Here you go then…

    Sen­si­ble Person: So, you reckon there’s a God, yeah? Any proof for that?

    God Both­erer: Why yes! In the Bible, I am sure you are aware, it says that God exists. Now, the Bible is the word of God, and He speaks only the truth. There­fore every­thing in the Bible is true, there­fore God must exist! Do you see?!

    Sen­si­ble Person: Uh, no, you’re just beg­ging the ques­tion there, you big silly.

    Posted by Jack at 5pm on 08.03.04

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