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The UK has had it’s fair share of fashion-led subcultures. Arguably, this tendency dates to the 18th and 19th Century dandies, who either revelled in the strictures of ‘correct’ attire, or plumped for flamboyant, decadent dress, with a hint of gender confusion thrown in for good measure.
By the latter half of the 20th Century, the sartorial descendents of Beau Brummel and his ilk came in waves. 1950s Teds resurrected the Edwardian drape coats that gave them their name (a look revived in the 70s, filtered through Glam, or in its original form). The 1960s belonged to Mods, who morphed into Skin- and Suedeheads, and saw their sharp-suited tastes perrenially revived. Even Punk, whatever the protagonists might say about DIY, post-Winter of Discontent rage and anarchy, was a fashion movement first and foremost: just ask Vivienne Westwood and Malcolm MacLaren.
All these modes share common traits, regardless of the aesthetic - the clothes had to be expensive, they had to be ostentatious, they had to be immaculate, and they had to be worn first by working class young men. Given the high rate of fashion churn between the post-war period and the 1970s, it’s perhaps a surprise that the last great revolution in mens clothing was sparked sometime in 1977 and holds fast to this day - the Football Casual.
I think this has something to do with the brand. Where a Mod might wear any suit, as long as it adhered to the conventions of Italian tailoring, a Casual can’t wear any old tennis shirt: only Sergio Tachinni would do, or Fila, or Lacoste.
At the risk of offending some very scary hooligans who live in London, Casual began on Merseyside. First, when scallies from on and around the Scotland Road in Liverpool merged elements of Punk style with shades of David Bowie’s proto-glam, plus an odd attachment to drainpipe jeans and, of course, the wedge haircut. Then a little later - 1978-9 - scally supporters of Liverpool FC found themselves at a loose end in French and Italian city centres, thanks to their club’s European successes, and took the opportunity to acquire (or, more accurately, steal) sports- and causal-wear they knew fellow and rival supporters back home had no chance of finding.
Despite shifts in popularity over time, the brands favoured by the first casuals are those seen on every British high street today, whether it’s the European away match makes - Kappa, Lacoste, Ellesse, Sergio Tacchini - or brands adopted more recently - Burberry, Stone Island, Acquascutum - and not just on football fans. The seemingly permanent fetish for the early model Adidas trainers that can be seen on the feet of everyone from floppy-fringed indie kids to perfectly respectable middle-aged men began with the early Casual preference for Sambas, swiftly followed by Stan Smiths. That nice shower-proof cagoule you have in the wardrobe dates to Casual anoraks, originally worn over Pringle or Slazenger sweaters, often by Kappa, sometimes by Patrick. Admittedly, you don’t see many folk sporting Inega, Fiorruci or Lois nowadays, but they’re the exceptions that prove the rule.
This sartorial longevity is down to the brands, as much as it is to the enduring (admittedly distasteful) glamour of the well-turned-out football hooligan. To be a dandy, Mod, Punk or Skin involves an attention to detail shared by the Casual, but thanks to branding, that attention to detail can be reduced to a basic list of clothing manufacturers, rather than, to take Mods as an example, an in-depth understanding of the proper number of cuff-buttons and an eye for the correct width of tie. Of course, any old Casuals reading will disagree, as will their Burberry-capped and tracksuited contemporary followers, and they can reasonably cite the subtle differences of Casual attire from football club to football club (the London loyalty to Farah, say, or the short-lived fad for deerstalker hats in the North of England) but the fact remains that Casual was the first brand-led fashion movement to take hold in the UK, and it is branding that has made it last.
In case you’re wondering, when I got up this morning I put on a Sergio Tacchini sweater (in navy blue and red with white piping - mmmn!), dark grey cords and Diadora trainers. Hence this post.
Before you leave a comment on this post, please note that sectarian insults and attempts to arrange fights will not be tolerated and if necessary reported to your internet service provider.
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There’s another clothes-themed grid here, and you can find links to interesting grid posts at Ashley’s summary of the inaugural griddings…
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casual movement started in Liverpool??
The land of the soap dodger
Dont think so mate
your ironically
Axel F
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Axel F????????
Pull yer neck out!!!
Any self repecting casual knows that the scousers did start the casual clothing closely followed by ourselves in the ASC…
You Edinburgh muppets were well behind… -
Axel F????????
Pull yer neck out!!!
Any self repecting casual knows that the scousers did start the casual clothing closely followed by ourselves in the ASC…
You Edinburgh muppets were well behind… -
right you scousers whats yous talking about the differins beetween us is that the ccs team run the hole show now right bams
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who the fuck is axel f ccs.yes the hoolie seen started in the pool then to the mancs they started the days of raiding shops and taxing.the hoolie seen never came north of the border until the early 80,s so dont take the resect away from the scouser.
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edinburgh muppets well maybe? for the first 3 to 4 years but what else have yous shaggers got to do up thair.dig for oil’well into 85 hibs started to get it together and as i recall a hibs boy in a two peace suit steaming into yous very anti sus.then in 85 a home game at easter road whare we clashed at the top only for hibs to come out top and thair we have stayed for many years.we may have been a bite slow at first but wen we kicked off we did it in quality.OLLDAME ASTONE VILLA MILLWALL.A the good old days not like that now your lucky if you can trust the guy next to you in your mob to be in for you.HBC
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PETER STORM CAGOULE YOU TWAT
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Jack, c’est fantastique. Ageing thugs arguing over peter storm cagoules.
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CHELSEA FOR LIFE!!
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CHELSEA HEADHUNTERS 1
INTER CITY FIRM - RFC NO SURRENDER BLUES BROTHERS 2004. -
any fuckin satarday service boys out thair who remember in the 80s going to easter road.only to be getting on your buses in motherwell to be steamed into a mob of hibs(CCS)who came threw before the game had started.remember this was a home game.smarte thinking city linking.CCS CCS CCS THE HIBEES FAMILY beet that one.
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REIDY HERE ANY TRUE C.C.S. MEMBER SHOULD REMEMBER THE MEMORABLE CHANT AT PITTODRIE”HIBERNIAN HIBERIAN RA RA RA” WHILST BOUNCING IN THEIR MAIN STAND AROUND 1985-87
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I’M a 20 year old hibby, was at the leith san siro 4 the leeds game, the service crew had came up expecting some serious swedgin they must of been seriouly dissapointed, it appears our once tidy firm has become a bit of a distint memory, Scotland is miles behind england in the hooligan scene and its our fault, its time 4 a second coming we need 2 re-earn some fucking respect and get some aggro back on the menu on a saturday afternoon
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wiz on th news fightin leeds fans n u see me scelp th guy a fuker yahooo
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what the fuck has happened to the C.C.S thev’e all fucking dissapeared. we will be back to do some serious damage so whatch out ………:)
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we owe it to this city Doad, we need 2 get back 2 what we r good at (not playing football) but kicking fuck out of daft soap-dodgers and sheep-shaggers
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we are johnny blackleys soccer trendies,na na na nana na na,
any capital city service remember going to a raith rover v aberdeen cup game in the early 80s!!!!! or the meadowbank v motherwell cup game also early 80s!!!!!!
and scotland game wembley 86” where was the english hooligans, also back then there was casuals in scotland english boys were not known as casuals not for a long time….THIS IS FACT….
hibs did become the main hooligan elemnt in 85” and stayed there for many years i dont know the situation nowadays. -
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i remember seeing a huge travelling ccs at love street in 1984, we were beaten 2-1, benny brazil scored for us. I was 11 at the time and a wanna be BBC member in a blue lacoste.
Hibs took 150 to that game it was an awesome march to the ground to witness! there was fighting in the St Mirren end which spilled onto the pitch, some ccs had sneaked in undetected. General chaos and disorder reigned all afternoon, i really felt kinda sorry for the inhabitants of paisley that afternoon. -
i remember in ‘85 we lost a midweek night game to the dons 3-0 at easter road. After the game i found myself accidentally in the middle of a mob of 60 ASC on Brunton Place, i didn’t know they were casuals ‘til they started chanting ‘aberdeen’. Shat masell but escaped unscathed
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COME ON ITALIAN CASUALS!!!
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just got scottish top firms dvd theres a march through dundee city centre by the CCS to meet the huns icf at the train station great day that like can still see the daft huns face after ah whacked him 1 it wis priceless lets get back to being number 1 and lets take the other scottish firms by storm and do the lot of them
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Edinburgh Muppets? I think not! are we debating who did or didn’t start well dressed over aged neds fighting with each other over football? cmon now lets jus grow up children and come play in the real world yeah? and by the way Chelsea Causals Rulin it 2%5 Style RfC fTp WE ARE THE PEOPLE ~LOL~
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Reidy, that’s a top story about Pitoddrie, hahahahahahahahahahaha.
Anyone remember a 1985 kick off in the Dunbar End against Motherwell? Right at the chicken wire partition between the fans.
CCS v Motherwell Saturday Service -
123 WHO R WE WE R DA YOUNG TEAM CYT!WATCH YAR BACKS CAUSE DA CROSHOUSE BOIS R HERE CUM ANYDAY N UL GET A TIMBY TAY DA FACE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ASC WERE NUMBER ONE AND STILL FUCKING ARE, SHOVE YOUR ICF, CSC, SS CSF ETC. UP YOUR ARSE, THEM LOT COULDNT PULL AS BIG A MOB PUT TOGETHER THAN WHAT THE ASC COULD.
GET A GRIP.
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pathetic rant by a typical highland sheepshagging jim.
Let’s talk football! 2004/5 games to date stats
Aberdeen 0 Hibs 1
Hibs 2 Aberdeen 1
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whay does cyt stand for????
canny wait for the reply
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CELTIC SOCCER CASUALS-#1 THE IRA WILL SET THEM FREE TIOCHFAIDH AR LA!
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celtic never had a firm and never will
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Oh dear, its a rant and a half here!! CCS and the ASC arguing about who was this and that. I was in edinburgh for the hibs v leeds match, have to say hibs had a very good turn out but the OB spoiled the party. heard rumours of the ASC being done by the CSF.
it seems to me that the OB are no 1 and we only have our memories of the good clothes, drink, dr*gs and fights we had. GOD I MISS IT!! -
i heard that hibs had a good mob for that game but i also heard that leeds service crew had 350.
We have the return fixture against leeds away at the start of next season, the whyte and mackay cup is supposedly an annual fixture. What upset and annoyed me was seeing lads casuals punching hibs fans who were wearing their colours. -
Hibz casuals all the way CCS u fukin arses well beat ur mob anyday goin 2 leeds in august 2 samsh they daft cunts first
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The leeds service crew didi have a good mob give them credit for that but hibs will bring coach loads 2 elland road in august and we will have abot 100 baby crew and 200 older for that a would say we have been 2 every game this season and it seems only hibs aberdden and rangers can pull a mob but dundee bring 1 to us last saturday but they are shite bags anbd have been leaving early since 84 any 1 want 2 meeet us for august or a fight send me an email oon [email address removed] n a will get back 2 u CCS back on top
[I edited this comment because I don’t want this site used to arrange fights. A bit of banter is fine, but read the post for God’s sake - it’s about fashion, not kicking the crap out of folk! Anyone else attempting to arrange a meeting will be reported to their ISP, as will anyone making sectarian comments any stronger than Provo Bhoy’s above - Jack]
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aye mon’ the hibs, we need to get back to where we were a few years ago
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CSC 1 CELTIC SOCCER CREW 1
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tell ye all wat ya fuckin raj english cunts any time ye feel hard enough uz come up and try yer luck wi the c.c.s . FREEDOM!
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okay if adidas is a casual brand, is UMBRO??
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Yup, Umbro is a fairly casual brand, as far as I know.
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lol @ all these Hibs tossers going on about their mobs this season. Must have been oh dunno maybe 80 or so at Motherwell a couple of weeks back and 70 of them looked to be under 15. Glad to see they’ve moved on from all wearing Aquascutum to Paul & Shark but does mean I’m gonna have to burn all my gear now if they vermin are wearing it.
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saturday service fanny! i was at the game against you lot a few weeks ago and i seen your so called crew.as for our young mob,they would kick your smelly soap dodgin cunt in.then the heavy mob would come along and really tear you a brand new arsehole. and as for you sayin ur gonna burn ur paul and shark gear uz musty be the trampiest mob in the country. i seen 1 boy with a ny cap on and a pair a adidas la trainers with a hole in the front so shut ur mouth. C.C.S
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i was at the motherwell game up at your patch the other week. you cannot even slag our young mob becoz they wold kick ur fuckin ur pathetic mob’s cunt in. yous got some turnout for a home game uz were pushing on double figures. uz r pathetic. can u plz tell me how many u had, and if u claim there was over 10 i would like names. as for you sayin u r goin to burn ur paul and shark gear uz r trampy bastards! our “15 year olds” had clothes on that are more value than your house u fucking tramp!
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wit u talkin” aboot we (csc) have never had a firm,ask the chelsae scumbags,when they shat it at the bloddy sunday march,glasgow in january,them and there icf pals broke through the polis barrier then jamp back in,dirty loyalist bastards.celtic soccer crew#1 o’glaigh na heireann. P.I P.I P.I.R.A WE WILL NEVER BE DEFEATED TIOCFAIDH AR LA ETA PLO
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Er, I’d rather there weren’t direct threats of violence and/or sectarian crap on my website, thanks.
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As true aberdonian and worked in Edinburgh for years and went to loads of matches - in both ends - you talk off the fights and crews but realy being a supporter would be fun.
ps was left in Edinburgh when 11 when cousin was arrested for fighting at Waverley in 1981 nae good.
You never hear of the girl crews and we were there week in week out and fought like men when needed.
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dear alison,
would you consider yourself a casualette? -
Our mob at last game vs Hibs - erm they werent out for that game coz they didnt expect Hibs to appear in any numbers - they’d been bringing 10-20 previously so wasnt worth the bother.
As for the gear our guys wear - gladly compare airmile points for Paul and Shark with any Edinburgh tosser. Collection of Zegna, Stone Island, CP Company and Paul Smith aint too shabby either and unlike you lot I didnt have to steal it or buy fake shit from EBay.
On subject of casualettes - was that slapper in the pink top the CCS bike? Everyone get a ride on her on your buses home?
and finally I was laughing my arse off watching your mob go past the pub window with your police escort. Funniest moment was the wee tosser that looked straight at me and my bro sitting in the window and you could almost hear the cogs turning before he realised who we were - then despite outnumbering us 30:1 managed to stick 2 fingers up at us then turn and run. Motherwell police reckoned you were so serious a threat they actually gave you a whole 2 officer escort :-)
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i thought this website was to be about the clothes and not slagging each other off?
cos ive seen MSS CCS ASC CSC CSF andthe utility in action and the truth be told there were well dressed lads and tramps in all these firms! as well as game lads and shit bags
my question is whatis the best pair of trainers you had in ur active days!
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Wit The Fuks Hapenin These Days - Nae Cunt Up Fur A Fukin Scrap Or Wit - Seems Tae Be That The Lower Divisions Are Takin Er The Casual Scene - Cmon Tae Fuk Lads Get A Bit A Saturday Fight Back Intae Us - Glasgow North Celtic Casuals All The Way - Celtic Soccer Crew Number Fukin Wan - Pira Fleeto Up Thre Ra Fukin Erin Go Bragh
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i thought this website was to be about the clothes and not slagging each other off?
It is PadsAyrService, but you seem to be the only person who’s noticed! Anyone fancy answering PadsAyrService’s questions?
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Best trainers I saw - probably my brother’s pink Adidas Gazelle he brought back from canada. Best jacket - probably the Ellesse one I got imported from Italy when you could only get their gear in London or as import.
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WHAT ARE YOU ALL ABOUT???
Well what a crock of crap!!
You guys are talking the biggest amount of pish I have ever heard. I can tell you that for sure. As I know how it all started in Edinburgh. As I was one of the originals and it actually started in Aberdeen and West Ham. Scousers were still saying “Gis a job” at that time. It started in Edinburgh when I good mate of mine came down from Aberdeen and went to our school in 1984…when I was 15. He had a Kappa jacket, Tachinni Tshirt, Levi Chords that had an extra piece of Chord (different colour) to make them flares and Dia Dora trainers. We laughed at him and said you look like a right muppet..then in his Aberdeen Accent said “I’m a casual ken”. So from that day it began in Boroughmuir High School and James Gillespies in Edinburgh, the first Casuals where Hearts Casuals in Edinburgh and everyone moved over to hibs…even I did and I am a Hearts fan. As thats what it was all about. The CCS was born and BBC for the juniors. HLC for the ladies. We all stood at the Wimpy in Princess St and the memory of us doing Jenners and stealing all the G2 jumpers still lives on. I can safely say that CCS kicked all arses in Edinburgh to a close Aberdeen who were game as fu**. Those soap dodgers couldn’t fight there way out of a paper bag…and used to trainers to good effect. So to stop your shite argument. Aberdeen were the first casuals in Scotland and it derived from ICF and Millwall so all else keep it clamped as you dont know what your on about. AXEL F who are you?? Where you there when the CS canistor got checked at us by those weegie scum bags Celtic.
Casuals have come and gone…get with it…its a blast from the past…Let it die and enjoy your Football. -
Alrite all you lot out there talking shite, the scousers robbed there way through Europe in the early eighties and started the Sportswear fashions, i was going to Dundee and Utd games when 14/15 in 84/85, even though a life long Celt fan, “Dundee Utility” boys. In Scotland the first boys with the Casual gear was Motherwell we all know that,then A/deen, where were you Hibs boys when the Utility walked down Leith walk with 250 boys, at a Leeds match, ha ha ha.
I miss the old days and still have most of my old togs and trainers, i hate the way evryone’s jumping on the band wagon these days, all the boys who were there at the start know it was more than fighting at football, it was about fashion, looking good for away days and the rest, it was a way of life for a lot of us.
oh and one last thing for all you CCS, ICF boys and the like up here in Scotland, i’ve not been to games for years but last season the Utility ran right over evryone one of your mobs and not one of you can deny it, you Hibs boys wouldnt even come out of Tannadice,
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who cares what you scotch lads think, you know nada about clothes and spelling and when are you going to put up a fight against us lot then? Good luck in the world cup
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what a bunch o jumped up dickheads you tossers are stand proud SPD VENGALOYAL
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Jonny, it’s “Scots” not scotch, so you sort your spelling before you start slagging off anyone else. Fanny.
VENGALOYAL, Fud.
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Well these days u hibee scum r just a streak aw pish on and off the park;) Mon the Jambos top aw the league
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listen up you filthy wee hearts jim we are supposed to be talking about casuals and their brands, then again what the hell would you know about casuals and their brands?
nothing!
fred perry and kappa are probably your favourite brands,
hibs; hardest, best dressed and in europe, well for now anyway! -
yes jonny you are indeed a fanny!
hello bartender could i have a scots with ice please?……………..total fanny! -
GIRUY ya fuckin dickheads.
CCS is still kickin it and believe me
“THESE COLOURS DONT RUN” ya jambo fanny -
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Dundee Fukin’ Utility, Remember Us!!!!!!!
Member:1985/1992
Best years of my fukin’ life!!!
All you guys who done the shit back in the 80’s/90’s will know what I’m talking about.
1 of clothes, none of this rip off pish that goes about these days.At least when you bought a designer sweatshirt or jeans in the 80’s/early 90’s you knew, and everyone else knew it was the real deal, not like now lol.
Too much fake clothes now and too much fake fuckin’ casuals also.Today’s casuals wouldn’t have lasted 2 minutes in my day, we had balls and stood till the end.i.e. 6 of us stood against a shit load of Hibs in Dundee City Centre, They cunts came from everywhere, I got the shit totally kicked out of me, 137 cuts and bruises, they tied a rope(jumper string?) around my neck and I remember them saying KILL the Dundee bastard, man I had fuckin Timberland footprints all over my body lol, I survived and It was fuckin brilliant.
Afterwards we were pissing ourselves it was class lol.
That was the worst hiding I got and the most fun lol, If there’s any Capital City Service boys reading this from the 80’s/90’s that junkie fuck Bongo was there at the time when I got dood in lol, he’s probably dead now, he was always out of it.
You were in Aberdeen and couldn’t get shit so you phoned Dundee for a liitle scrap which we were happy to oblige, you forgot to tell us how many you had thought ha ha.
There was about 5 buses full, we were fuct from the start lol but as I said it was good fun at the time.I’m 35 now, married, 3 kids and a Scarfer, I love my team now and wouldn’t fight even if provoked, well maybe lol.
Cheers 2 all the Fugs for stirring the memories.
r0nd0. Utility no.1
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utility on top non stop#1
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After having a few days to think about this shit, Having the cool clothes got you into the mob, staying there was about being a fuckin nutter and fuckall to do with clothes.
Clothes never gained you respect, you done that shit for yourself lol.
Rich guys had the dogs bollocks clothes but were pussies in the field, some guys like me who had good jobs (and clothes) fuct it up for themselves and ended up on the brew.
No new designer clothes but the fuckin heart was there and no-one would say shit to us about clothes incase they got the shit kicked out of them.
The rich pussy people used to pay £1 each towards our train fare to away games cause they knew they would be sort of safe with us lol and they were trying to buy respect but it never fuckin worked.Like I said earlier you earned respect not bought it.
i.e. 6 of us went to Tynecastle and again we got fuct up but at the end of the day my mate was outside the train station and got a surprise kickin, he was my mate so I ran outside punched a few o’ the cunts and pulled my mate in the door, fuckin shiter, I tell you, I don’t know where it came from, my mate had a broken arm and on top of that they poured into the trainstation and we had no choice but to head over the fuckin railway track, and we got done for fuckin’ trespassing, what a joke eh! anyway we got PF letters soon after to say we were off the hook, thank fuck, that would mean another trip to Hearts end of Edinburugh with 6 again.r0nd0 Utility no.1
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Sort yourselfs out Edinburgh girls - Glasgow Is rougher and tougher
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HAHA! LISTEN TO U ALL. EVERYONE ALL OVER BRITIAN AND ABROAD KNOW ABOUT THE ABERDEEN CASUALS. THE REST OF U BOYS ARE WANNABIES, ALWAYS LOOKIN AT WHAT ABERDEEN HAVE DONE AND TRYIN TO MATCH IT. WE LED THE WAY AND STILL ARE. NO ONE CAN DENY WE HAVE THE MOST NOTORIOUS MOB NORTH OF THE BORDER. I WOULD BE EMBARRESED TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH ANY OF UR INFERIOR MOBS. I DONT KNOW WHY SOME OF U BOYS BOTHER ANY MORE. ABERDEEN R THE MOST ORIGINAL MOB AND FANS IN SCOTLAND. HIBEES R CELTIC WANNABIES - THATS PRETTY SAD DUT WORST OF ALL IS THE JOKE OF SCOTTISH FOOTBALL HEARTS. I HATE RANGERS BUT FOR SUPPORTERS TO WANT TO BE THEM IS TOTALLY LAUGHABLE. MY MESSAGE TO ALL NON ABERDEEN SUPPORTERS OUTWITH THE OLD FIRM IS - TAKE A LEAF FROM ABERDEENS BOOK, GET SOME BALLS AND GET UR OWN SONGS. ONCE AGAIN THE DONS LEADIN THE WAY! STAND FREE.
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CSC YA FUKIN BAMS … HAIL HAIL … IRA ….. TIOCFAIDH AR LA … URE GAWNAE GT THE SHIT KIKD OUT OF U COS WE R THE CELTIC SOCCER CREW
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listen aw use bawbags theres only 1 firm tht kin b respected thts the csc !! the rest eh yees huvnae even a decent team ya fannys ad slap yees aw wey ma dick ! ! CSC YA FUKIN BAM !! TIOCFAIDH AR LA !! big shout oot tae aw the st pauli wans !! (Y) IRA… FUK THE QUEEN N THE UDA !!
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CELTIC CREW CUMIN THRU, GONNA SMASH HEARTS OFF THE TOP O THE LEAGUE, AS 4 THE SITE, BEST MAKES R, C.P COMPANY, SERGIO T, ARMANI AND STONE ISLAND DENIMS. UP THE RA
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mon the hoops, were gonnie fuck hearts in 2 weeks and then kick the shit ot there sons a william scummy bastard fans efter it. csc no 1. by the way sheepy a agree wae u hearts wanna be huns and hibs wanna b us but were top mob now so fuck u anol ya prick. fuk the queen and davie cooper
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go tend your stalls at the barra’s ya weedgie scaffies, check you all in your fake clothes and your fake aftershave, what a joke! celtic casuals come on don’t make me laugh! just so as you know hibs hate celtic just as much as we hate the huns you are both the same thing, just a different colour. You represent religious bigotry, racism and and the all bad things about small minded society on the west coast. I think it would be fantastic if celtic were to beat it and go and play in the irish club league and rangers could go and play in the northern irish league, then we would be rid of this cancer that embarrasses scots like me all over the world, micky bhoy and celtic lad and, pearo and sean get lost and go home to ireland where you can sow your religious hatred and be welcomed, boys just think what that would do for kappa sales on the irish mainland! in your glasgow slums mate, hope the jam tarts thrash you! and by the way you probably would want to fuck davie cooper ya wee faggot!
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ya dirty fenion soap dodging cunts , yees got a doin at the queen st train station af hearts,, ha ha ha ha ha noo thats a laugh by the way U.V.F all the way ,the sheepshaggers noo thats another laugh take yees all oan ya dirty shopper of shite.
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fuck you micky bhoy ya sick fuck .
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hibs baby crew on top we will doo any mob jst ob are on top the now bring loadz 2 aberdeen they will be in for a shock like ccs on top
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Aberdeen first casuals first sheep s****** thats about it. I.c.f
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BRING ON THE SHEEP!!!! NO SURRENDER WE R THE PEOPLE hahahahaha BY BALLOT OR GUN RU DAY DIDNT CUM R REBEL SCUMBAG (ICF)
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ccs baby crew fuk u all
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was at the hibs game at easter road when we were in europe no long ago. after it i was walking up london road when the CCS appeared fae naewhere, must’v bn about 100 of them, n they cased sumcunts who were ootside the Omni centre, no sure who it was though but they ran like fuck… wiz legendary like
CCS ya fannys
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total agreement on the weedgie sectarian scum nonsense, get a life, and some decent clobber. yuze west coast slackers, are living in scotland.fuck i.r.a scum,and the uda ,dundee utility kick to kill.pure and simple
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utility no 1,dont yuz forget it,keep the faith.
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DUNDEE UTILITY NO.1
FUCK ALL YA’LL.
p.s. Fuck the sheep, I decked thier top man with a Sun Newspaper when I was only 17, DUNDEE UTILITY took 22 to Aberdeen and we fuckin’ ran they bottlin’ bastards all over the place, and in the train station I fuckin wacked a so called TOP MAN (Croitz ???)with a Sun Newspaper and he went down like a ton of fuckin’ bricks , Shitebag, We got our own Train home with 25 polis lol, there was only 22 of us. we had a fuckin good day, sheep shagin’ bastards.
DUNDEE UTILITY NO.1
Ronnie Mckell.
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you see, some of you people hide behind the old computer screen lol, easy to be hard behind there eh! My real name is at the bottom of my posts and I’m proud of my past, I was DUNDEE UTILITY THROUGH AND THROUGH, and laugh at some of your stupid posts, Guys and Girlies who think there so fuckin’ hard, but hide lol.
If some hardcore guys and girlies from the 80s/90s want to give some feedback that would be real interesting not you stupid fuckers who think thier casuals now lol.
If there’s people from the 80s/90s out there , share the stories ,let the little cunts know what it’s all about. It’s not about being cool or having the best clothes or girlfriends, It was about BALLS.DEE/UTILTY #1
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Celtic Soccer Casuals bred 2 kill IRA got our bak ,fuk yees all
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good to read old stories from my era those were good days indeed d/utility/thugs gave everyone a good go dont care what any other tubes say gave hibs a right good doing after night game at tannadice in a side street next to arklay st too many other good memories to recite.
ladywellchasemob84-89
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c’mon the motherwell s.s all the way,we fucked the hearts at haymarket!!!
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scousers started the casual era FACT 10 YEARS BEHIND DICKHEADS L.F.C.
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dear ronnie you are so tough and so cool i wish that i was you
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never been a casual but was a skinhead went to some matches always had to chase the aberdeen mob,also had a great scrap with the hibs before the dundee/dundee utd game at tynecastle,great battle at the train station doesn’t matter who wins as long as no one runs
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hibs casuals! biggest crew of saps going. started on me before whilst minding my own and got more than they bargained for got the talk but nothin else thats the truth a bunch of fairies who need back up by 100 more fairies. NON OF THEM CAN FIGHT cos they dont have a reason cos they actually came from good homes but are so full of shit to tell you otherwise.FUKIN FAIRIES
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ronnie when’s the book coming out?
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when hibs beat aberdeen 1 nil at pitodrie we had 60 baby crew up 4 it.and 10 minutes before kick of a mob of aberdeen youth went past us on the bus thare woz only a few police around at the time.and not 1 aberdeen boy got off as we were chanting c.c.s tryin to get them off the bus before it pulled away.and wot happen a cople of weeks back whe our baby crew done 30 heart older boys inn ootside the hamarket.and thare woz about 15 hbc.and your main boy who steamd in first did a no punch 5 stone of his fat fucking heed. C.C.S SCOTLANDS NUMBER 1
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fuck yis all man all the casuals are gay part fae 1 ICF(the gers) csc are the shitest cunts around !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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my english friends give me some links about your bands,i watched to good in my opinion films F.Factory and GSE.and I want to learn about you.
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the hbc were called bbc first after john blackley ( the then hibs manager) blackley’s baby crew. shouldn’t you now be called mbc instead of hbc (mowbray’s baby crew) . whit aboot the tufty club what are they called now?
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all you rangers and celtic twats dont have a clue, you shout IRA, UDA. why dont you fuck off to ireland for a couple of weeks and see how you get on. you should try living in the real world for a while. wankers
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dont talk fucking pish its always been the hbc because a know the boys who started it.hibs fans chant tony mowbrays casual army but it dosent make us T.M.C.A The casuals have never named thare firm after the manager you fucking idiot.
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C.C.S on top nae other firm can pull together as much up 4 it lads an u sheep shaggers can get to fuk ya bottlin bastards (any time ya fukin fannys)
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C.C.S on top nae other firm can pull together as much up 4 it lads an u sheep shaggers can get to fuk ya bottlin bastards (any time ya fukin fannys)
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CCS all the fukin way u muppets ! anyone fuks aboot they get fuk kiked out them. sorted.
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late eighties doing apprenticeship with guys from all over scotland, falkirk fear motherwell ss, ayr united , csc.best dressed ever was guy beattie from fear cost me a fortune in the last 15 years. wore chipie, chevignon, valentino, ralph lauren,timberland, armani, duffer of st george, sadly he died 10 years ago but he lives on in my fashion as i “ran” with celtic after meeting him and ever since have had a great passon for the style but also involved in some dodgy scenarios at the football. had good nights with all several nights with yogi from hibs in falkirk with ss and ccs and fear and other workers full of sweeties which killed the violence a little at those times as in slam in the park etc now over thirty married but still on the fringes and interested in getting back in to he boxing but still well turned out paul smith armani seal kay prada stone island aquascutum and merrel at the end of tthe day it was all about looking good while somsone was trying to rip your shirt off your back and you bought a better one for the return leg anyway.
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Re. previous reply violence is comin back in a ig way dur to the backseat of sweeties(E) for ching as the ame atmosphere can now be felt while on a night out as all full f charlie think the are invincible where as full of ectos just want to dance reminds me of late eighties as b4 we use to tan sulph or coke b4 games in mickey finns in ingram street in glasgow b4 games then started taking sweeties and couldnt b bothered going to games but now older more income can afford to take more coke etc it seems to b older guys from my era going back to the scene
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actually you fucking fanny it was bbc before hbc back in 1984. Blackley was the manager we had after Pat Stanton you probably don’t even know who either of those boys are you disgrace to the green and white badge ya
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‘ah know the boys who started it’, what an absolute load of rubbish u know naebdy and nothing mate, you are as hard as a morning stiffie. You probably only started going to games when we made europe this year. Go support the jam tarts!
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very valid call about the chan and eccies, that’s true coke= violence
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Aberdeen, Dundee? The only thing hardcore about these boys was the ammount of sheep they shagged! Ronnie McKell stick that in your local newspaper if you can read “lol”? CCS 1 fuck the rest
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dear ccs number 1 you should hang your head in shame! learn about your team and their history before you go lipping off to fellow hibbys! it was always bbc, it only became hbc when blackley got sacked!
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We will take any one on an if any u celtic pricks want a go next week(19TH NOVEMBER 2005) when rangers go to celtic park am sure we can find a little arrangement to meet an we’ll kick ur cunts in I.C.F.
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Right, that’s it - any more comments like Graham’s will be deleted. Talk about football, talk about casual fashion, talk about the history of hooliganism all you want, but do not make threats, attempt to arrange fights, or trade sectarian insults.
I don’t want my website polluted with that kind of shite.
And none of you support Tranmere, so you’re all idiots ;-)
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graham rangers icf lolol fukin unlucky pal, as fir aw these chookters goin on about there famous casuals, who giv’s a fuk mate i wis at the falkirk away the other week n after aw those scum bags started singing get bak 2 ireland standin thinkin there mental, a saw the fukin look on there faces wen we responded with a nice corus of boys of the old brigade, every celtic fan in the place stood up makin sniper guestures goin fukin mental n face it uz aw shat it, same fir u aw u fukin rangers fan after wee shauns goal ye fukin start singin aw this cry is no surrender,every celtic fell about laughin ay ye’s fukin face it uz have surrendered yer team is the worst, we’re top of the fukin league we put yez out, and then ye’s sing rule britania after the second goal lol get a grip fanny’s its fukin 2005 britania dont rule fukin anythin man.
[Sectarian chant removed - Jack]
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as for the icf u can all leave now coz i’ve seen the csc more than u lot and thats fuking rare. i am a celtic fan but all u ppl who r sayin csc no 1 etc shuld get a grip, last i heard we wuld all used 2 kick fuk out of u coz u twats culdnt even thro cs gas at the ccs without hitting ur own fuking fans, bunch of dummy’s. and where is the csc wen at tyncastle u get those fukin wannae b huns attacking woman and children? hearts casuals r a fuking disgrace 2 the hooligan name, i thot casuals where supposed 2 fight with other casuals not fuking attack woman and children. And half of u have the cheek 2 say we’re daft becoz we chant about the i.r.a, the only time we ever is wen u lot start aw ur get bk 2 ireland pish, and that seems 2 b aw the time. And as for u graham, take ur scum and icf back to castle gray skull becoz i havent seen a worse rangers squad in a while, fukin up ye mate “we’re top of the league and ur 4th”
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AWAY AND WATCH YER TEAM YA BUNCH O’ PRICKS. MAKE SOME NOISE, SUPPORT YER PLAYERS AND BE A FITBA FAN - SOME OF US TAKE THE BAIRNS AS WELL, SO YOU LOT SHOULD PISS OFF BACK OUT OF IT.
WHERE I’M FROM IN NORTH EDINBURGH YE GAVR UP PAGGERING IN THE STREETS AT 16, AFTER A GOOD FIVE YEARS OF INTER SCHEME FIGHTS. YHEN YE GROW UP AND GET ON WI LIFE. THE BIGGEST LAUGH OF ALL IS THAT MOST CASUALS I’VE SEEN OR SPOKE TO ARE NICE BOYS, WHERE MUMMY AND DADDY HAVE A BIT OF MONEY - HOW ELSE DID THEY GET THE GEAR?
THE ORIGINS OF HIBS EXPLAINS IT ALL - JAMES GILLESPIES AND BOROUGHMUIR - FUCK SAKE, TWO MIDDLE CLASS NICE SCHOOLS IF EVER THERE WAS ONE! AINSLIE PARK - NOW CLOSED, NOW THAT WAS HARD.
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Always thought Aberddeen started the casual scene. Still we know Scottish football’s micky mouse so I suppose you gotta do somat. No surrender.
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SS Boys on Top Non Stop . .. Theres even a book out on us . . Saturday is Service Day…Look it up You Daft Cunts . .SS No.1
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wits happened tae the celtic soccer crew they run the show ya dafties C.S.C ya fukin bams
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did you ever play away at firhill primary? that was murder
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most o our boys are from leith niddrie gilmerton royston m8.and al tell you wot m8 not much of us were brot up in life with a silver spoon in our mouth.But al tell you wot a couldnt give to fucks about whare our lads were raised or wot homes they came from its about bing LOYAL, AND HAVEING BOTTLEsomething you jambo cunts dinny have yous dont even come down tae easter road its 20 min walk fae your georgie slums. C.C.S SCOTLANDS NO 1
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dus any one heer no the best way to join a firm am up for it but dont no who tae talk tae?
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nah nah nah nah lets go fukin mental hell yeah tell every hun that ye no that were tap a the league n yoor no 3-0 hartson balde n mcgeady yassssssssssss
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Come on now you’s Celtic scarfer fans, and less of the nonsense, most of you’s don’t have a clue. Firstly its not Celtic Soccer Casuals, it’s Celtic Soccer Crew. And whats the pont in giving it IRA etc after every sentence you’re just making us real CSC lads look as clueless as you are.
The Hibs CCS were always seen as the number one mob, but ever mob has had their days.
Ooh to gas, ooh to gas, ooh to gas a hibbee……….
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dus any one heer no the best way to join a firm am up for it but dont no who tae talk tae?
Er, I’d prefer it if that went unanswered. Thanks.
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Man City’s GUVNORS are by far the hardest firm in Britain!!!!
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As a tim, I totally agree with all the abuse given to these fuckwit bigots who post their ira and uvf pish. Scotland can do without it. Worth mentioning that there are plenty of other teams who have fans who give this kind of crap out as well (Hearts, Dundee etc..)Fair play to Aberdeen though, have never heard any sectarion bile from them. funnily enough was called a fenian bastard by a hibs fan once a couple of years ago (2002).
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Carlisle til i die, (BCF)
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carlise who the f*** r them
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Yes , it was all started by Scousers who used to bring back previously unknown brands from Europe . Anybody who says anything different is just wrong .
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for a start edinburgh is a posh culdisac where u all took cookin lessons ud hav a better chance if ur burds took yer team we,ll see on new yaers day wen the csc cum through we r gony take use out and member the semi final were u got ambushed at st enocs centre and use all hid behin the polis PIRA ftq
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stuff the ccs the ccf r the boys mon the cowden
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moni rule ya bass! fuk the ferry fleet! ill smash yas all!
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fuk all u sheep shaggin bastards! i floored ur top bloke wi a punch wot a fanny he woz! cum n see iz again if ya wnt samshed! MONI RULE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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i cant belive all of u hearts fanny’s ….i wiz at e game e day and u all looked a bunch of tossers and probably couldnt fight ur way oot a paper bag………..the hibs look a proper bunch……..i cant wait 2 c u all again at almodvale………wat a laugh it will b
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cant wait till sat……….2 c all the no hopers that we call weedgies……….i hope you get alot this week in ur giro and collecting muney 4 looking afta cars………….u mite get £4 tops ………and that will b a great week……..eh!!!
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i fukin h8 millwall efc r guna fukin batter use if ne ov use wanna organise a fight email back 2 me u scummy milwall twats hope use all die.
I also fukin 8 man united fukin orrible manc twats. buzbees aeroplane crashed wish i was da pilot.
Went 2 blackburn away da other day an cracked a few heads open it was brill da nice of a few heads opening felt reli gud.RUN RUN WHOEVER YOU MAY B WE R DA FAMOUS EFC. WE,LL FUK U UP WHOEVER U MAY B COZ WE R DA FAMOUS EFC.
WHOS DAT DYIN ON DA RUN WAY HUS DA DYIN IN DA SNOW.ITS BUZZBY AN HIS BOYS MAKIN ALL DA FUKIN NOISE COZ DEY HAVENT GT AN AEROPLANE TO GO
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efc 4 eva guna fuk every millwall fan i see
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will there be a posse of soap dodgin casuals on saturday? how many ccs are goin thru?
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Nice article jack.
I’ve lived in edinburgh for 13 years now but grew up in Northern England. I’ve found it fascinating speaking to different lads from the firms up here and realising that a lot of the fashions were very specific to an area as well as a year.
It was the customising as well that made you stand out from other firms
Jumbo Lee cords with the badge taken off and sewn on the ankle anyone? - which ankle? ours were on the outside right.
splitting your hems so they sat nice over your trainies
kickers with extra tags (but not too many else you looked like a right tool)
I recently saw a deerstalker on Easter Rd, worn with style and respect for the history. the geezer stood out a mile and looked way better than all the clone island kids do at every ground through the UK. It’s not just about being in a mob but standing out in style as well. You can’t fake a deerstalker can you??
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CCS+BABY CREW ON TOP ANY1 OF U SLAGS CUM AHEAD !!!
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aryte to all u dundee utility every1 nows were the best the ccs are jst a bunch o cunts
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were the hearts all you wee stupid young team firms better get your act together cause this year we run the show so bring as many through to town and see what u wee gimps get ! csc
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Fucking sheep, i fucking hate you lot. All you do is cling on to the past and these days all you have is a few top boys who are followed around by a couple of dozen scarfers who leg it at the first sign of going toe to toe and dance around the pavements fucking pricks, January 21st whrn the sheep come to Dundde next to play the Arabs. Fucking bring it on…… Cannae wait.
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me and a few boys wer at parkheed , but seen no cunt.where the fuk wer yous. i didnt go thro 2 that dump 4 nout. that just shows that we r no1. if sum ccs boys did find u wat happened and where?? or do u just cum oot wen the dss aint at ur door….
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fuck all u utility wanks u lot are a bunch of fannys who have to get escorted from leith on a bus cause u flapped it from us ccs4life
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Moan the fuckin hibees we’re comin for u jambo bastards lets hope yis dinny fuckin run this time ay.
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Res ponce to that jambo cunt from earlier about being from North Edinburgh snd slagging cunts who went to central schools in Edinburgh. That just shows you that the scum of the capital were driven northwards, out of the town, eventually to turn in to badly dressed aberfifians. Some still remain, masquerading as rats within a deprived gorgie. its not even worth smashing up. TCR CCS Michael Whelehan.
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lets get the truth on here eh,back in the day csf had a not bad mob pretty game,ccs were tops in edinburgh,motherwell had a decent mob,dundee boys were fucking sappy as man,as for the no 1 back in the day it was the sheepshaggers though i hate to admit it.both the asc and ccs had massive mobs prob 800 to 1000 boys at there peak csf could pull about 500,disnae matter how many dundee pulled between them they were shitebags and motherwell were the bottle throwers .no1 now to wot i have noticed is the ob theve sussed it out, only took them twenty odd yr to do it though, gie them a round of applause.
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just writing 2 see if there are any boys from chester goin 2 wrexham on the 28th of this month 2 kick e shit oot of those frontline cunts………….if so r we all up 4 it…. i sure am and just 4 the occasion am makin sure its not 1 2 forget…………last time we played them at home sum bold cunt dun me in big time ……….so cant wait 2 fuck his christmas up…. mon e 1 2 5’s….
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I’m a hibbeeee but i wanna run with the c.c.s. a little help lads?!
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Fuck all ye rangers fuckers yer shit and all ye loyalist wankers my freind got shite kicked out of him last night for walkin through a loyalist area with a celtic jersey on so fuck ye pricks C.I.R.A (CONTIUEIST I.R.A.) (C.I.C.I.C.I.R.A!!!!!!!!!!) (C.I.C.I.C.I.R.A!!!!!!!!!!!)(C.I.C.I.C.I.R.A!!!!!!!!!!) SINN FEIN 4 EVER FUK IAN PAISLEY THE QUEEN AND THE UDA. R.I.P BOBBY SANDS (KEANO! KEANO! KEANO!) EIRE 32.
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After the Hibs match against Dnipro aboot 30 of the CSF we outside John Lewis and about 100-150 of the CCS & HBC popped oot fae naewhere and chased the bastards up to Princess’ St. Got all of you bastards that ran. 28 Jan. Hertz Vs Hibs At Scummy Geogie, will use boys run again? Fucking get it together and get a fucking crip. Alot of people notice the HBC & CCS and go along with them so we’re never stuck with numbers
CCS SCOTLANDS NO.1 ALWAYS! MON THE HIBS..
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I’ve not been into that since the end of the eighties, but I can remember fondly away days to aberdeen, edinburgh, ayrshire etc. It was mostly about fashions and style, as well as being ‘game’. Fashions i distinctly remember were, Dungaree’s, POP84, Pod sandals, Kickers, Lee semi-flares, Ocean Pacific, Chipie, The NEXT ‘great outdoors’ jackets, remember the brown and green hooded ones? they were a staple, also the next ‘golfcourse jumpers’ - the ones in blue or green with the crazy patterns, paisley pattern shirts, diadora, adidas jean trainers, Bjorn Borg, Benetton Rugby shirts, alaska parka’s, berghaus bubble jackets, chunky moccassins, Ricci, Boss, Armani, black 501’s, Crazy fashions!
i remember going to love st once around 87 and there was a boy with a blazer, chinos and ski goggles!
As far as i seem to remember most of the ICF weren#t from glasgow, and were from Irvine\Ayrshire, and they were all mental as fuck, the times yoou’d go via irvine on the train to ayr or killie and they would be at the train station every time, mad bastards! -
Aberdeen were the first real mob in Scotland (1980/81), Motherwell were 2nd (1982), Hibs, Dundee (1983/84), then Rangers (1984), Hearts were skinheads till 1984/85. Aberedeen were easily best organised, dressed and numbers (Oct85), then Hibs caught up and definitely held No 1 (1991 approx)…then any team fcould claim to be best at some time or other. Also, Dundee/Utd although good at home, never travelled from 1983-1988, as there mob could not get it together in Edinburgh, Glasgow or Dundee. Mobs now days would not no what would have hit them in my opinion if faced with 80’s mobs.
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Burnzy, you must have run with a trampy mob if you got your golf jumpers from next. Here in sunny Leith we favoured Lyle and Scott and Pringle. Black 501’s were perhaps in but that was back in 1983/84 and were well favoured by the Hearts Service Crew as their mob was initially known. I take it you are from Dundee and that is where the dungarees come from. Oor Willie Utility indeed. Get back on your bucket and stop fantasising. What actually happened is that fashions changed on a weekly basis in say 87 - 88. That lasted about six months till the fines started and the police turning up at your door on a Saturday morning to tell your ma you were a casual. Plus, remember that there wasnt really that many labels to choose from. So what happened was that people began to accept all the usual famous labels as acceptable every weekend and they moved into almost mainstream fashion. This eventually lead to the Stone Island, Burberry nonsense as they were initially worn by the “top boys” then the rest of the mob followed and then, to a certain extent, the youth of todays society. It is basic sociology, from deviancy comes the norm. Personally, i wouldnt be seen dead in a Parka. At the end of the day, anyone who was still in it by 1991 was a fighter principally, not a dresser. These days had gone, replaced by E and clubs. Outside the calton studios in Edinburgh, graffiti appeared taunting the boys who didnt run with the mob any more and instead took class A drugs for recreation. What Jack says in his initial article is correct but was to be expected. The casuals were a massive youth culture in the late 80’s , any self respecting clothing company should have sacked their management team if they didnt utilise its potential. Young people cant really imagine what it was like in 1985, there were few places to buy good gear in Scotland, shops like USC have simply filled a large gap in the market at the right time. What should also be stated is that the quality of the clothing has deteriorated rapidly. Remember the old Timberland moccs. The sole didnt wear down. In today’s world, even cars and lawnmowers have what is called built in obselesence. I.e. certain parts are manufactured to wear out in a given period of time. Clothes went the same way a long time ago. I used to have a pair of Polo jeans and the denim was incredibly thick. It is not just clothes that have changed but society. It could be said that casuals were the last stand against society. It was hammered by Maggie Thatcher who, it is said, turned a blind eye to E. Thus, today,the majority of youngsters just get “pure melted man”. Everyone knows society is finished as we know it. The casuals took their moment but didnt see it to the end. They didnt have a chance. Now, where will another spark come from. It will be the next generation and it will be far more violent. That is inevitable as the final end. Big brother, no freedom to even have a shite. The next youth uprising will be stamped upon and various “controlling elements” will reorganise society like a massive ant nest. No deviancy will be tolerated. Perhaps deep down, we all knew what it was all about in the eighties. Not clothes, not fighting, the point was we were young men who saw that the world was a con. It was about the fact that life was not great any more. Why do you you think educational standards have fallen. The goverment realised that too much education was a bad thing. We were the last. Why should anyone have to work fourty hours in a week to if you think about it, to provide food and shelter and clothes. The rich get richer and the poor of today will vanish. the royal bank of scotland has opened a new head office with a shopping mall, hairdressers etc. They have a creche and take the bairns round the complex during the day. The next step will be housing and then we may have a child, born in the bank complex, brought up in the bank complex and taking a job in the bank, before retiring into a bank retirement home. certain individuals have become so brainwashed or unable to think for themselves that they would welcome this. “Yes, our James is doing well for himself, he has a house and job in the Bank” bollocks, our liberty is being stolen. Anyone up for a new revival. CCS . Be all you can be, choose soccer violence
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brands from the 80s pop 84 , classic nouveau, pod ,adidas new yorker sweatshirts, cerruti, fila, tacchini, lacoste, them were the days. DEEPDALE BOY
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hibs baby crew on top we will do any mob tht is game enough 2 come ahead we r scotland number 1 and u better remember tht
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hey brian,i think ur spot on but ur taking it a bit far wie the r.b.s and as for reviving the ccs it just won’t happen,well not to extent that it used to be.the old shed mob at tynecastle was probably some of the hardest supporters in scotland at that time who would have wiped out any casual firm off that day,some off the shed mob turned casual and started up the hearts mob (hearts service crew) and then (casual soccer firm).the uk is turning into a police state nearly a cctv cam on every corner off every street u even look or walk the wrong way ur collared and questioned,but brian what i truly agree with you is the day will come this country will explode again,into extreme violence,that the police and the goverment won’t know whats hit them.it will be a reversed trend this time,the 80’s and 90’s was violence then raves and drugs, this present day the drugs are rife the lads are bored,with boredom comes violence then theres football,so maybe i was wrong earlier when i talked about the ccs not getting back there full potential but brian it won’t just be the ccs all the firms csf included will be back big time and nothing will stop them.
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EVERY ONE KNOWS TIMES HAVE CHANGED HIBS ARE THE NO 1 IN SCOTLAND WE HAVE A MOB WEEK IN WEEK OUT. HBC
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Bring On The Dons In Two Weeks, Bring You Sheep. We’ll Fuck Them Up To.
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Brian blow above shows it all and speaks from memories. A Revival of the CCS would be outstanding as our Mob would rule again just like the 80’s.
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csc ya fuckin tits prada and stone isiand all the way ya fuckin bams dun the jambos the day fukin minted ya fuckers.p.i.r.a.
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awryt av been wantin ti join a fitbaw firm fir a long time noo(coz a luv fightin but mastly evry man duz unless they r gay) but a dini ken very much aboot it so if yooz kood gee mi sum info it wil b very much apreciated
P.S do raith rovers hiv a firm?
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listen,i think we should stop this forum now,what a farce its turning into who’s no 1,who wearing what,WHO CARES.what u need to do is stop talking and get back to the games meet each firm with a good old fist fight, no weapons.so come back on here in 6 to 12 months and the storys u will have to tell will be more interesting than what rubbish u young laddies are coming out wie the now,thats if any of u can handle it.some of u will be battered and bruised but fuck what a buzz u would have had believe me u’ll enjoy it either way.so go on lets see u out there.
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No, we should turn this forum into a discussion of 1980s casual clothing, which, if anyone ever bothered to read the post at the top of the page is what it was always supposed to be about!
There is no such thing as a ‘good’ fist fight.
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CSFs top boy got hammered in on Sunday a heard from the CSC what a turn out after the CSF went for them first CSC turned round and leathered them apperently
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celtic boys got hammered on 1st jan v the csf after game nun of yas were up 4 it
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good to read the storys lads, dundee utility still scotlands top firm,one of the 22
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hello ross ccs,i was at the game against celtic and was beside the casuals and i never a single fight cause there was to many polis, maybe later on but the celtic fans never hang about after a game at tynecastle,so if a few boys from the csf are reading come on and tell the truth wie what happened we all want to know.
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cant wait till the 28th. canny fuckin wait u jambo bastards. mon the hibs an the hbc
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Trampy mob Brian lol. Nah the Next ‘Golfcourse’ jumpers came a few years after the lyle & scott\pringle days. they were called that because they had crazy patterns on them, you know the ones I mean? they were big about summer 83.
they came in green, blue or red, and had crazy psychedelic swirly patterns. next sucked tho’.
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CHELSEA HEADHUNTER NEXT JOKE PLZ
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Tennis clothing had the largest impact on the casual scene in the 80’s anything that was made in Italy ruled! In 1985 Boris Becker won Wimbledon aged 17 in ellesse clothing and it became really big. McEnroe’s tacchini youngline tops were highly desireable, made in Italy and tight fit. Bjorn Borg’s fila line was huge as was any fila item generally as it was made in Italy and made to the highest standards. Then of course Lacoste, worn by Henri Laconte (French tennis player) though i’m sure no-one has ever won Wimbledon in a lacoste. Then there’s the Adidas Ivan Lendl range, all made in Germany with the cool sky blue iceblock design, this was great in polo shirt or tracky with zip-off sleeves. And finally cerutti 1881 which was very rare to get and worn by Jimmy Connors. All this gear was available at Olympus Sports on Princes Street from 1985 onwards, but the real jem was Austin Reed’s downstairs sports department on Princes Street (it had the lot) Fila polo shirts were 29.95GBP in 1985. Also Jenners had a pretty good range. I never shopped at USC it was and still is way too jim!
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Dundee Utility???????
I want all scottish firms to know i ran with a street gang from dundee who only fought other street gangs but we ran the utility in the city centre when we were bored about a dozen times coz they are all shitebags.
P.S. if you want to surprise these mice they drink in Ferrari’s Bar on matchdays just down from tannadice, just turn up with 6 guys or under any more than that and you’ll see 50 guys run like the skitters. Utter ballbags. -
Fuk off liverpool will fuk ne1 round, forget the old days wen the fellas wer tits. that aint cummin bak look 2 the new firms like the HDS and the NET, n meet newer n ull gt dun!
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Fucik sake done a wee swearch on google fir a laff amd am amazed that the UTILITY has such a good name, its a pity that the ob have ruined the scene with cctv, b ut what i wonder about is mckell saying fleet rule when it has always been DUNDEE UTILITY THUGS/CREW never lochee! xxxxxxxx
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2 be honest wae use i hink we could take anyteam in scotland aww u need is the old bit stannley and a bat we r unstoppable and hope it stays like that
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You all should get into 21st century. CASUALS HAD THEIR DAY IN THE 80’S. It is starting to sound like the bigot brothers arguing about bygone centuries. Get a new identity after all who wants to wear the same gear as every wee wanker in pilton. Any hearts cunts looking for revenge on sat 21st jan keep away police onto it.
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Saturday, Saturday, Saturday Service.
Saturday! Saturday! Saturday is Service Day!
Was at Easter Road the other week for the M’well game. hadn’t gone to a M’well game since the early 90’s.
Didnt notice many hibs at all. The usually infamous bridge was entirely unremarkable.
Bob Todd - If your ever back on…hows yer brothers teeth. No danger of losing any more at Easter Road. Stll both going to the games I see.
I dont even dress like a hoolie any more…Zara for me these days ;-)
I have to live in the same city as these smelly inbreds too. Its shocking how many of these wee hibs hoolies are illiterate fuds.
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u all fkin cunts, ya twats. ya pretend to have fkin firms, but ya all pussys. im the major for the fkin SRM (South Road Mob) in fkin taunton ya fuckin cunts.
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Hello sad fuks, wots this site all bout is it sum scottish fing or summit the amount of u bastards on here. All ya tlkin about hibs this celtic tht, ya footballs shit n ya firms shit. Your all past it now u need 2 mek way 4 the new era. LCS LCS LCS
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Celtic for life,keano keano, rangers r crap ha ha 17 points fu**ers, ull never beat the celts
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DENS DFC DERRY: 1975 - 1984. SKINS, PUMKS, VANDALS & THUGS.. MATCH GEAR: DONKEY JACKETS, ARMY SURPLUS or CARHARTT WORK JEANS (Carhartt had a factory in Dundee around the same period), STEEL TOE CAP BOOTS. FUNNY MOMENTS: PRE (Provest Rd End) emptying and all the Dens Derry runnig straight across the park towards the Motherwell end. Was a Wednesday night game around 1976 after we beat them in the cup. 2000 Motherwell fans running from the ground to the coach park (Gussie Park), attempting to get onbaord their buses as they were bricked, the sight of all their fans running up Arklay St shouting on the buses to wait for them… Every bus sporting smashed windows. A cold trip back to Motherwell. The Dens Derry then went onto Dundonlad St and smashed up 2 Police cars… Those were the days.. I think they call that a Riot these days.. D, E, DOUBLE R, DOUBLE R Y - D E R R Y !
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csc who the fuk are they there always running n hidding
RANGERS ICF NO 1
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was at easter road last week and jumped the graveyard outside the ground to get passed the barriers further back towards the ground. when a 400 strong of aberdeen charged at us singing wheres ur famous CCS we had to run for about a mile and enybody who fell behind got FUCKED UP ended up on london road near there busses but the busys turned up to quickly so aberdeen had only been challenger 4 about 5 minutes they then went 4 the station singing and then we piled in with the bricks and had it away 4 about 20 minutes solid then the riot polis turned up and lifted no 1. great day ccs all the way!
Have also been hit with brick in aberdeen,had tear gas been thrown on the train in motherwell and hit with a bottle in swine castle but the ccs will be back id know cos am the next generation ccs!
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HOO KIN SHOW MI A LIST EH EVERY FIRM IN SCOTLAND?????
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just wondering wat the DUC think of the fair city boys??? they obviously dont see you as a thret anymore, which u pratically neva wer. just 2 ask where wer the dundee boys on the 2nd?? usually all the ‘shit’ goes down at the staion but i couldnt see 1 boy or even a fan and to make it easier for us there was not a polis man in site lol…..anyway 18th march should be good as a lot of boys are expected 2 make it thro.
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Right , lets get everything into perspective ,the hibs crew were mainly manned by the YLT (Young Leith Team) these were the guys , remember ambushing the Hun Scum at St Clair , when we joined up with the YNT and other Edinburgh gangs , i’m 47 now and have been watching Football Factory to get me in the mood for Saturday against the Jambo.
When i was young my father said to me,
When you grow up son , what you gonna be ,
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Fair City Boys? I dont know what the DUC think of them (who are the DUC anyway?) but back in the day (and probably much the same today), no one thought / thinks much of Perth I’m afraid… Brora Rangers probably have a harder firm / mob than Perth, lol… Brings me back to the (good) old days again when the Dens Derry used to hit Perth’s Muirton Park, every train to Perth packed from around 10am in the morning from Dundee and 1000’s of Dundee having a good carry on in Perth all day. It was very rare to spot a St Johnstone fan before the game, they used to hide their scrafs…in their home town too lol. Does anyone remember the game with 100 odd arrests (all Dundee!?!) back in the early 70’s? The Police didnt have enough vans so they hired 2 furniture lorrys to take the arrested from the ground to the Police station lol…classic. Perth Pack? Crazy Young Saints? Fair City Firm? They only came out to play when the likes of Alloa or Stirling Albion (the local derby) came to town…
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hearts are shite ccs ya bam…. rudi skacel is a fucking refugee?
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Wrexham till I die!
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y r the hearts tryin 2 seperate e fans on sat?? even the hearts security r tryin 2 save yous from a good auld do-ing. just like the norm. anyway there will be a good turn out. MON the CCS/HBC.
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A wiz atHibs V’s Sheep in jan. CCS had a no bad mob oot. Kept trying to get it off but buizzies everywhere.
Baby Crew had it wi some near the graveyard but after that ter sheep headed straight for Waverley.Any1 else see the herald that satuday??
Good article bout casuals second coming!CCS
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im surprised there is still support for this casual thing amongst the gers what with all these anti hoolie measurements in place nowadays ie c.c.t.v. all seater stadiums passport restrictions at ports and airports etc etc.great site lads keep up the good work.newcastle united/rangers #1 no surrender to the ira.
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Ccs till i die fuck the hearts
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here i am writng bk 2 the boy who responded 2 ma last message…… the saints have always had a mob . ask anyboy fae perth and surrounding areas and they will tell u that. and wat is the ‘DERRY’ thing all aboot?? i dont remember that game u wer tokin aboot but ther is a new generation of the saints and are ready to battle wif any1. who dares 2? and believe me YOU are the rivals just ask the boys that got a hiding at the bus staion at perth after the game . only got told aboot it a couple of days ago but …….as i say the saints are bk and we will not hide or lie down 2 any1. IRA n FCF 4lyf.
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you CCS/HIBEE pricks think your the hardest crew out there????where were you when the ICF were on the pitch at easter road celebrating winning the league???? Did you really let a couple of fat stewards stop you or was i just seeing things? In your own backyard too…shitbags!!
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LUFC ARE THE TOP BOYS AN ALL THE ERST OF U AV BEEN WATCHING TOO MUCH FOOTBALL FACTORY FUCKING BABY CHAVS WHO DANCE WITH SOME PROPER BOYS IVE SEEN LOADS OF SHITES LIKE YOU RUN FROM THE MINGERS JUST LIKE MAN U RUN FROM US 11 NONE OF YOU ARE WORTHY BUT JUST A SELECT FEW.
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ALL IM HEARING IS ABOUT SCOUTS AND NORTHENERS, WOT IS HAPPENIING, NO BODY’S TALKIN ABOUT THE FOMOUS ICF, WE ARE THE PROTECTORS OF OUR GREAT CLUB, AND THE ONLY REASON WE DO WAT WE DO IS TO KEEP THE RESPECT OF WEST HAM AND THE HOLE OF EAST LONDON, ANYONE COMES TO OUR CLUB NO MATTER WAT CLUB THEIR FROM APART FROM THE MILWALL AND SHOW RESPECT WE’LL SHOW SOME BACK, IF YOU DONT WERE FINISH IT NO MATTER THE ODDS, YOU MICKEY MOUSE FIRMS SHOW SOME CLASS AND RESPECT AND REMEMBER THE FAMOUS ICF! WEST HAM TILL I DIE!!!!
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who is this fcf perth lad spinning nonsense?
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thot this was a clothing brand chat eh?
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We ain’t just in East London, we’re all over Essex in force, and my mate is right, you come down here and you don’t give respect, you fucked pal, Millwall only scored the equaliser, but the U12 will get ‘em and I’ll be eatin my pie and mash in Deptford yet! As for the chelski foreign legion, wankers, for seven years on the bounce we drank in the Nell Quin Kings Rd, and the Stanford Bridge Arms, wall to wall claret and blue. MarketeersICF
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All the Scots lads on here seemingly are full of shite and full of themselves, step back and read the pish you lot have all posted. What an utter disgrace you all are. The jokes on you. Hibs this and that is all they ever come away with, Dundee saying Motherwell were the firts dressers proves what little they observed 80-84 before the SS had even travelled to an away game. Aberdeen were and still are at the forefront - the formation of The National Firm is living proof what ABERDEEN SOCCER CASUALS really are and even then the SNF couldn’t get it together to do the ASC.
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Exeter city for life. dont mess with the ‘Sly crew’
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Replyin to Rrobert Knox How fucing stupit are you??? your sayin we shit it fae the icf when you cames on the park at easter road to celabrete wining the league.it was scarfers on the pitch not hoolies!!! and wot about when abedeen came on the park at pitodie????????????? wot about your mob then fucking shit it.and your saying we think were the hardest.mibby thats true mibby its no but hay at least we have a mob week in week out wich is more than wot cam be say for your pathetic mob. CCS BABY CREW
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FROM MY MEMORY ARCHIVE: I remember when Dundee United played West Ham United in a friendly in Dundee, late summer 1982. It was the first time I think I had ever seen a mob of hooligans without club colours and very smart they were too. Spotted a couple of Deerstalker hats as well, that was different. There must have been around 50 of them and they went onto smash up a bar opposite the railway station and I think a fair few of them were arrested by the Dundee Polis. They met a little resistance from Dundee United scarfers, but on the whole I think they came did what they wanted to do in Dundee that day. If my memory serves me correctly, I think the bulk of their mob was the same ones who were featured on the TV programme ‘Hooligans’, back in the 80’s. I do remember seeing a (huge) black kid getting arrested, then I saw him in the tele programme as well…alongside the bass player from the CocKnEy ReJeCtS lol.. ICF are / were a force, no doubt.
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bring on the ccs a fink we shud arannge something here coz i wud love to kik the shit out of evrey 1 of yous
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NO SURRENDER
TOP MAN
INTER CITY FIRM
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HOW AWLD DI YI HIV TI BE TI JOIN A FIRM?????
johnst lod
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t.o.c willl kill any of uz ur firmz r shit we r the nxt big thing
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stop all your cyber warrioring and leave it for match day ladies! this internet shit just gets ppls name for the ob.leave it for match days to settle scores!
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theres not one boy in the hibs baby crew from leith.maybe a few of the older group.
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It was a clothing brand message board till it got hijacked by some goats talking a fight.
Most likely wearers of Aquascutum and burberry hats.
Get back to some real gear boys, a nice pair of cords with some nike air max.
You can blether away all you want about what you are going to do. But that’s all it is till you do is blether.
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Right , lets get everything into perspective ,the hibs crew were mainly manned by the YLT (Young Leith Team) these were the guys , remember ambushing the Hun Scum at St Clair , when we joined up with the YNT and other Edinburgh gangs , i’m 47 now and have been watching Football Factory to get me in the mood for Saturday against the Jambo.
When i was young my father said to me, When you grow up son , what you gonna be , Are you gonns go to school and get a degree or you gonna be the leader of yhe YLT
Posted by Leith Hibby · January 23, 2006 10:57 PM
This guy here, my dad was in the YLT and he’s about the same age as you but he’s Celtic through and through!!
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A wee history lesson for you younger Edinburgh boys. In the mid to late eighties, us Hibs boys used to refer to Hearts as “catalogue casuals” - the reason for this was that at any point in time, there would be some form of CCS presence in the town. Hearts boys couldn’t get to the shops and therefore had to order their gear through their Mum’s catalogues( and take full advantage of being able to pay up a Tacchini tracksuite over 208 weeks - despite the fact that is was out after 2 months!)
Around this time there were quite a few high profile defections from the CSF to the CCS.
Hibs were the most inventive mob in Scotland.
Arriving at Motherwell before the SS got on their buses for a game in Edinburgh.
50 + CCS walkinging straight into a Aberdeen v Raith game at Kirkcaldy. Removed from the ground that day and put on a train back to Edinburgh - only problem was hat the train track is right beside the Raith ground, so Emergency cords were pulled and we were off the train and trying to get into the ground again.
Dressed in snorkel Jackets, NHS specs and Rangers scarfs - walking amongst the ICF at Ibrox - they were completely unaware until they started getting hit.
No-one, apart from Hibs, had the balls to pull stunts like this back then and no-one will ever try things like this again.
This is Edinburgh and We Are Hibs.
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Jesus!
Scottish Football is fucked. As are any offspring that these cretins manage to squeeze out.
I hear Little Cumbrae is up for sale - how about the SFA buy it and then just dump ALL the casuals that really feel they still have something to prove on there and then don’t go back for a couple of months? They’d have a great time and so would we.
On a fashion tip…what about Gallini? What about Grolsch bottle tops as fashion accessories? D M Hoey’s on Viccie Road should be turned into a museum I say!
Johan
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Rite lads listen up!I AINT NO hooligan and dont ever intend to join the hibs.
Everytime a see the hibs lads at a game(espacially away) use make me fear no cunt, simply because of the reputation use have built up over the years,and i dont have a problem way use doing what use do,infact I think its a laugh watchin use all fight:leeds,hearts,aberden…seen it, couple of mates of mine think the same
However, I do think use are ALL TALK,NO ACTIONNow adays use do fuck all pretty much, and i know police are everywere,CCTV,gettin stuck in jail for years… But why do use all know create a scene to give yourself somethin to do, Like at rangers the other day a walked past a bus load of use all, surely you could have done somthin to all the huns trapped behind the police barricade, Just give them dogs abuse, u canny get arrested for that JUST DO FUCKING SOMTHING THSES DAYS take the piss out of them, fake charge them, make yourselfs known, ITS ALL FUCKIN TALK THSES DAYS WAY USE.U canny get arreested for the above
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Anyone See The SS Mob That went Thru To Love Street ? fucking Lots …SS No.1
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howz it gawn firmz.dini ken if uv herd eh uz CCF (cowden casual firm) mon the cowden fuk the rest eh the firms exept thee ccs uz ntin 2 be oor cuzinz wb ccs cheers
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whoz wantin 2 join the CCF then write 2 mi cheers
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read all the post but 1 thing PERTH yes its has mob for years i started travelling with the boys in late 70s travelling to all scummy towns throught scotland most mobs too pissed to fight so it was a rammy more than planned battles,then in 1985 THE “MAINLINE BABY SQUAD was born [m.b.s] fight for fun kick to kill we stood we fought but we never run.
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i am a hibs boy through and through and see lots of boys week in week out. we usually wear aquascutum, paul + shark, prada, hugo boss, stone island, addidas y-3’s (and other acceptable gear). if u want 2 look out 4 casuals u shud look 4 folk that look good, dress good and fight good. 4 many boys if you have the bottle and are loyal then u are a good person 2 have. CCS + HBC. we are scotlands top mob and we are the mob to look out for!! no1 is able 2 turn us over !!!.
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nobody kicks the shit out of you like the ayr service crew na na na
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i remember the time in the mid 80s we [the ccs]payed in to the main stand at easter road [aberdeen end] boy did we give them some kickin then we got chucked out the had to pay in again at hibs end, those were the days ccs
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ha ha ha ha mosscow u make me laugh ‘cos u talk pish ha ha ha ha ccf(2 men and a sheep)
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hey jack,theres only so much clothes u can talk about what the casuals wore.thats pretty much been covered now,so the young un’s are turning there anger into a word fight which is a bit handbaggy if it was not so laughable.well jack time to close this forum then mate there was about three or four decent answers on here about clothing the rest well say no more(and thats including mine as well lol).so jack u’ve got ur answers so discussion ended, keep well, cya all at the games
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I cant believe full grown men are arguing over who was the hardest in the 80’s it’s now that counts, is that not what you say to celtic fans that rant about winning the european cup. One point i feel i’d like to make from a female point of view coming from the Edinburgh area myself is that those so called scummy celtic fans are the best dressed guy’s in scotland with a better city and a far better selection of shops oh and let’s no forget the night life……….. P.s Have a good st patricks day!
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time to close this forum
I’ve thought of doing that Jambo, but I like to leave comments open on all posts at this site. Sometimes people find a post years after I wrote it and add a helpful or interesting comment (eg. check out this thread about collapsed lungs, which is nearly three years old) and - unlikely as it may seem! - someone might add something useful to the discussion here.
So, yeah - to future commenters, why not talk about casual clothes and brands, as well as trading insults? What brands do you wear to the football? Do fans even give a shit about clothes any more? (The continued popularity of Burberry caps suggests not!) Do you take the badge off your Stone Island gear or leave it on? What’s your favourite pair of trainers? Etc. Etc.
I’ve given up on deleting off-topic comments (though anything really dodgy will still get the deletion treatment), but if you could add a line on the topic at hand to whatever you were going to say, I’d be most grateful.
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dear jack, this post is too funny it must never end, mon the cowden, hahahahahaha,
pringle, fila white line, fila bj, tacchini youngline, tacchini dallas, ellesse made in italy?
where in cowdenbeath did you buy these brands in the 80’s?how many persons are there in the cough…., splutter, erm,.
cowden casual firm? hahahahaha…dear lord,
ps anyone who wants too see a good casual documentary check out ‘policing the casuals’ on bbc frontline scotland, worth a look,
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Jack, that’s a fair shout.
I’m fearful for the under 5’s these days. They think shopping in USC makes them a player, let them goto the games and rant and rave. They will never copy what happened in the 80 and 90’s, in violence or style. There is a reason why the dance scene was allowed to flourish, the police knew the casuals were involved, if the boys were up all night taking pills then they wouldn’t be causing carnage on a saturday afternoon. The police are wise to it all and are probably frequent visitors to this thread, looking for names, places and dates.
Anyway.
I’d be interested to see if the dear stalker took of again,back in 80’s it was a classic accessory, with the top boys doning them. Daks of London ones were the must have of that item. Think one of the hibs boys mentioned he had seen one at easter road recently, that’s respect.
Wonder if the like of Ocean Pacific, Pod, Chipie and classic nouveau,even still exist. Think chipie has a bairns line now!
In stirling there was a quality shop, gibson’s that used to be great for all these garments, not sure they ever sold OP though. Think it’s a coffee shop now, probably thanks to USC and burtons!
SI has managed to flood the market, alot of fakes out there thanks to ebay and the like.Badge is of mine, don’t thank anyone for growling at me when i’m out walking the dug and bairns, just because of the badge.What i’d like brough back?Chipie jumpers and lois cords, quality garments.
Not sure about Prada, it seems a bit poncy is everything they do in Black?!?!?
Where did this thing for baseball caps come from? Did I miss something or was it a trip too see the american casuals that introduced it!!!!! I’m all for fashion evolving, but not copying americans, get a grip boys.
I still see some of the old boys in cruise, good too see you lads. Keep up the style.
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Burberry caps are dead in the water mate, well they are in Ireland, an ever growing casual scene and indeed hooligan scene. As is Stone Island not just here but also in England. Paul & Shark is undoubtedly the top casual brand now day’s and what a brand it is. Acquascutum is up there in the big time return to football aswell. Not much happening in the big firm tables now days with increaseing crackdowns on this behaviour but in Ireland where it hasnt really took off yet its easy enough for a cracking day out and a great punch up especially in the Southern League. With the new Setanta Cup on the go where the biggest teams from North and South clash there is new firms that have never met and go all out for it, its great.
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here m8 …….(the new scene) wen hibs nd hearts wer over in ireland in the summer nothing happened …..i know that a few boys from both sides wer over but nothing happened….. i believe that it is probably just growing over there but i hope that a few of yous can cum over 2 scotland to see wat it is like over here …..as it is still ‘game ’ here and hopefully always will be .. well hopefully lol. if yous do get it on over there. i think that it will be great 2 see north against south as it will be more that your football team in some cases . but m8 make sure neither side take it 2 far… (i am totally against sectarianism 100%) p.s. i also agree with burberry caps, i have never been for them in the first place.
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SOME nice little stories coming through now. The Hibs one about the snorkel jackets and the NHS specs - classic, keep them coming. It’s good to hear all of these memories from the 80’s…
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I’m from the PBC (Pacifist Bohemian Crew) and abhor all violence but I have to admit that the visual image of sneaking in amongst rival fans disguised in snorkels and NHS specs and suddenly starting smacking them all is a hilarious image! I would love to see video footage of that(though of course it was betamax in them days….)
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Pacifist Bohemian Crew - genius! May I start a TRFC branch?
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whats all this talk of the lsd bein such a big firm these days i had never heard of them untill bout 2 months ago i go to paisley every 2 weeks and just wonderin whats its all about could someone please tell me if theve pulled of any good moves in the past months am confused here
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MEMORY ARCHIVE RECALL: Around 500 members of the Lochee Fleet (Dundee street gang), dressed Clockwork Orange style, around 1972/3 making their way to a Dundee v Celtic game at Dens Park… They looked like an army. Also, bumping into 30 Aberdeen fans who were dressed like Dexy Midnite Runners band members, George Street Aberdeen, after a midweek cup game against Dundee, around 1981/2, got the worst kicking of my life.. 30 onto 1, the odds were stacked against me lol. PuNkS & SkInS v PuNkS & SKiNs - Hibs v Dundee, 1978 Easter Road, Wattie from The Exploited on the Hibs frontline lol… The memories… they keep on coming…
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I remember when there was about 100 ASC members marching through the streets of Edinburgh, down to Easter Road when suddenly a group of about 100 Hibs Casuals came running out of two sepparate alleyways and had us trapped. The Hibs Causals thought they had done such a great job as they were about to go in for the kill. All of a sudden 50 ASC members creeped up behind the Hibs Causals and started racking there heads around. The Hibs Causals were gobbed smacked. Suddenly the trapped ASC members started going mental! There was missiles flying everywhere. People being struck by objects such as clubs, sticks, lead pipes etc etc. Within a minute the stong Hibees were done and dusted. ASC will allways get the last laugh……………Grand Memories They Were.
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what bout the csf….done hibs twice in one day…and walked clean thru 80 aberdeen as they wudnt steam us….come on lads…top mobs in scotland….behave!!!!!
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we wentup tae aberdeen and done them in we are the hardest casuals easy!!! nxt tyme we play use sheep were gonna gee u a ryte kickin !!!!!!!!!! cum on the CSF remeber walkin up tae 70 lads from ccs(hibs casuals) firm wi the csf team in givin them a kickin !!!!!!!1
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csf fucking behave weve done youz about 4 or 5 times this season and were fucking sick of battering you jambo cunts. wot about polwarth bar? or when your youth mob met us out side the omni after our european game or after the first derby at tinecastle at the start of the season. CCS WE ARE EDINBURGH WE ARE HIBS SCOTLANDS NO 1
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yez are all aff yer heedz everyone knows that w-s-a are the ardest and as for you bead rattlin bastards away n fuck yersells- GOD SAVE THE QUEEN.
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Is the casual look coming back to make an appearance? Bands like the Artic Monkeys are decked in what could be argued as Casual brands. The resurgance of Lyle and Scott is even getting press attention and has been written about in The Sun and The Times.
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hello lads, been reading ya banta about CCS,ASC,SS,ICF,LSD,SB am not an expert but i remember on a few occations when i was north o tha border ’ i think 85 was the earlyist . the ASC was the first ones i encounterd standing waiting in glasgow central ,train pulled in and a good 30 to 40 boys all in full clobber’pringle,lacoste,fila,diadora, an impresive site and then being ran by sum fucker with a blade! yes i shit myself am not getting cut for nobody. but i have to say the CCS were by far the nastiest and game, i even remember a few years later i think we played man utd and they came down and ran the red army ragged. airdrie section B were not bad either. dont know if this rings a bell with anyone but if it does you’ll be round my age 36 and know itll never b as good as then,now its just wannabe’s. yours leazers ender!
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wat the fuk is casuals all about man. this is all fukin stupid. u watch films like green street and football factory. u look at how much trouble u can get into.u can also get murdered. fuk it cmon the gers no surrender for god and ulster
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Aberdeen have a selective memory,they never recovered from the “battle of queen street” in 85/85 season.Top boys and well mobbed up jumped of the train at Queen Street,Glasgow polis escorted them out into Queen Street and they realised that they were trapped.Rangers pulled in a good few hundred that day and the battle was fucking magic.Aberdeen stood and fought like fuck fuck but eventually numbers counted.Never seen so many guys getting a doing in my life.Total respect to ASC.
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its been a while since sum1 lat put a post on this site
but anyhoo……i wiz at e game yesterday (sc*mdee -v’s- taysides no1) wat a turn out from e perth pack……a couple of dees wer brave enough 2 try and get at us but because of the large number of saints we had to get an escort straight back 2 the train station……
you shud of seen folks faces in the wellgate shopping centre….i have never seen so much people laying bricks at the same time lol……i just cant wait til next season now…. hopefully yous will come through 2 perth next time…
i am getin excited already….
WE HATE DUNDEE, WE HATE DUNDEE, WE ARE THE DUNDEE HATERS
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just like 2 say who are the “whitburn-shadwell-army”???? neva heard of yous…. r u a 1 army plonker??
HAIL HAIL
p.s are you a wannae be casual??? wae the mighty whitburn welfare lol
mon the bo’ness lol
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in the early 80s hereford united dresser crew were a tidy little mob who always stood.we always did our shopping together so as to not “double up” with a new item.the favourite brands were lacoste,tacchini,pringle,lyle and scott,diadora,fila,burberry,that was a good label til the chavs of today fucked it up.dressing was all about wearing what suited you,not all looking the same like the burberry/henri lloyd/stone island clones of today,they havnt got a clue,just copy each other,tossers.
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bla bla bla ladie ive slowly read all your rubbish but quite clearly we all need automatic guns that is surely going to sort the game from the ungame. i love playing games.
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here perth saint what are you on about i saw yas in the overgate there was abut 15 o yas walkin about thinkin yas were hard dundee utility rule
YDU…greg lawrie sean martin.. YDU
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the lot of use scousers should jst stop lyin… who cares if use started the casual clothes its who the better fighters are, an we all know that CSC(celtic fc) come out on top!!!!
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i agree as few of you have mentioned,it will never be the same again as it was in the 80s/early 90s…on as an ex casual myself my opinion is that no one could match hibs or aberdeen on thier day,and a message for rob from hereford stylists i was the scots bloke who ran with you lot a few times in 91 whilst working down there..i was the fkn clown who steamed into hartlepool and thankfully got lifted!
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Just another quick note: loads of folk have tried posting comments full of sectarian nonsense - don’t waste your time, that sort of comment won’t be published on the site.
its who the better fighters are
No, it isn’t not for the purposes of this thread anyway.
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Some of the guys on here are ridiculous, especially the Celtic neds coming on - Celtic’s CSC are a joke, they’re pretty much non-existant! The only three firms in Scotland worth mentioning these days are ICF, ASC & CCS, and even though two of those firms are rivals, i’ll admit they can bring a good mob!
[Sectarian nonsense removed - Jack]
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theres only wan mob, the ICF! mon eh gers n no surrender :D aw the best boab ;)
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i am in the hibs babycrew and this season i think has been pretty quite we had only a few meetings with hearts falkirk and few minor 1s like when me and a few others slaped about some dundee utility outside middeltons on easter rd i wonder if all mobs feel the same and i would like 2 thank hearst for starting 2 show face now and thn x
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Come On The Dons. Aberdeen 1-0 Hibs. You have a shit team and a shit mob. Canna wait to kick ur heeds in! Sheepshagger 4 life!!! ASC
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Now then, the casual movement started in the North West, first Liverpool then manchester….leeds scum weren’t too far behind. Thats the way it is, everyone else is just copying us and very poorly at that. As for fighting……when it happens I’ll be too busy looking good (you wont have got onto the labels though) Ha ha ha, I’m laughing at scruffy teds. FCUM.
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The best dressed these days are us well to do Celtic Crew. We are the best at everything. Simply the best? 3rd in the League! Them rangers fans still wear bowler hats and all that pish. Us Tims can afford the best designer gear.
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look only 3 mobs in scotland that can stand toe to toe with any cunts hibs st.johnstone aberdeen /the rest are shitters or runners rangers never travell,celtic hide & dundee are always runing over the hilltown to get away/hearts are runners /falkirk only dissapear m”well only a few lads show then old bill apear well done to our young boys at inverness herats thought they could take them threw some bottles then got slapped 22 perth casuals arrested 50 turned back at the station we hope to see u all next season dont be shy u get a warm wellcome m.b.s./ “perth”
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To all the English mobs coming on and shouting your mouth, you might have been the first, but some Scottish mobs would take you apart, look back to my fathers era - taking the Stretford end at Old Trafford - that’ll never be equalled by any firm….
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Again 2 the english boys remember hibs been down at oldam and utd riping apart other mobs and scattering millwall apart those where they days but the babycrew these days will fellow in our footsteps as hibs where are and always will be scotland number 1 and up there with tnhe top mobs in europe
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i have read all you have to say and i can honestly say that i respect most the casuals in here i am not a casual myself but don’t get me wrong if i was offered i would join. i love to fight that addrenalin pumping through you when your kicking the shit out someone nothing beats it. as i have already said im not in a firm but being in a firm would propebly be like a family looking out for each others back.alot of people think that all the casuals want to do is cause havok .mostly they do but being in a firm i would say would feel like home to most and by the way you all go on about how your teams the best,most of your teams are shit give a take a few of them CELTIC are the best
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Think majority of people miss the point about casuals , the name casuals is synonomous with clothing , thats the true identity of a casual . I know guys that cant fight sleep but they are still classed as one of the lads cos` they got the right gear on .
Top Ten Labels :
Prada ,
Zegna Sport ,
CP Company ( Millie Miglia forever ),
Stone Island ,
Armani Jeans ,
Lacoste ,
Adidas ( Y3`s making it big on the scene ),
Paul & Shark ,
Paul Smith ,
Peaceful Hooligan ( Obscure , but there gear is smart as )Cheers
Northern Elite , Middle East Branch of the ASC
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whitburn shawell…lmfao, the blackburn boys run west lothian, aint no1 big enough in west lothian 2 get a mob and face us in bathgate steelyard. bbw r still out there. cmon the burny boys
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Just because someone has good gear on dosnt make them a casual.
At the recent semi final around 20 of us including myself where droped of at the hearts end by a wegie prick of a bus driver :s all i can say is we walked right through them and they did fek all !!! we diddnt win the match but at least we held our heads high
back to the clothing issue
The scum think if ur in stone island etc ur a casual if anyone on here was escorted back to teh train station by a box of scum i was with my son
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all them edinbuggers geein it the big time like the huns, all them hibee bastards feart tae admit they are fenians like us and feart tae join our crew, an them jambos they are just huns all the fifers are huns any way. Look all youse just ye know put yer money where yer mouth is an we might take yis seriosly until then we laugh at them small weak crowds of scum we see entering the away end of parkhead,in yer more store and asda george gear while we wear stone island and prada! Tiocfaidh ar la!
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lol lofty where ya get your prada amd stone island from the back of a van ? or is it real yeah but no but yeah but no :S
come back when u have something real to say Tiocfaidh ar la! lol
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y dont u mentions the welsh hooligans , since i am a member of wfly i agree dat it was probably the scousers that started casuals because being unemployed they had nothing better to do
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Burberry caps are long gone but Stone Island is the no.1
When is the last time ASC beat up the hibee fucks-im only a lad and my dad n me r aberdeen 4 life - he used 2 b in the ASC and has been banged up 4 the night a few times….any1 wanna get in touch, dons only!!!
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im a fashion design student doing a menswear project and i want to include casuals culture . if ne1 has any photos of themselves in the clothes, (back in the day, preferably) , email them to me! or if u cant be arsed scanning them just email me some thoughts on your clothes and why u were in to it to begin with! ta
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im a hibs boi in a cant honestly belive these tims thinking they are football casuals personaly i think they are all ira wanabes. The csc are a bunch of tramps from a council estate beside parkhead and when the whole five of the csc decide to turn up for a meet they just run away. Also just to mention wearing stone island and prada does not make your mob hard! Just thought i would tell other mobs as you cannot talk about results off the field with any other mobs use argue over the clothes use wear HAHA come back when sue get a result. CCS 4 LIFE Babycrew Divison
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I love wearin prada , stone island , cp , armani (just the jeans) but i aint no casual . The clothes are the nuts , look the part and the women love em !!!! Pricey , i just paid £85 for a prada cap at cruise . WELL WORTH IT !!!!
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killie midweek up at hibs walked thro edinburgh untouched som mob u’s hav eh??killie army
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swedish casuals wear nuttin but Henri Lloyd and North Sails! and we use nuttin but fists n feet.
see you in germany this summer
IFK GÖTEBORG ´87
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LOL FUCK 4 SAKE ALL THE SCOTTISH R FUCKIN MUPPETS! LIVERPOOL WILL FUCK THE LOT OF YAS AN THAT GOES 4 THE REST OF ENGLAND U SOFT CUNTS AN ESPECIALLY THE MANCS THERE FUCKIN SHITBAGS!! INABIT YA GANG OFF FAGGOTS
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the dundee utility rule the show in scotland and woosd rule it in england ana you load are all ald fags. the utility rule the show use dinna even ken hw ti fight nae mare and we will prove it if any1 starts in dundee (scotland)
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dundee utility you mug. That shoes the strength of your crew that you need put the country next to your name. go and join a big crew, you have 15 badly dressed kids and 10 worse dressed men running after scarfies. don’t bother showing up at any away games and never to be seen at either dens park or tinkerdice. dundee utilty, aye ok.
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just reading all the shite from all u second rate mobs service was and always will be top fuck your tattie houkin scum lets have it right celtic have never had a mob ss ya mug mcdonald 2-1 fuck you enemy within our country fuck off too shamrock land saturday is service day
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ecc youth r keeping traditions high old style clothes old style rules ahhhh the good old days .
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What is this all about? Have just finished Dan Rivers book about ASC. I am still at a loss as to why anyone would find pleasure in inflicting serious damage and pain on another human being for the fun of it. On of the posts this guy says he was almost hanged by a jumper and was very close to being killed. He survived but still found it a great laugh (after the event). It must be passed down in the genes as there are obviously some seriously disturbed people who think it is ok for their own offspring to follow there pre neanderthal exploits. Try chanelling your energies in trying to educate yourselves. The spelling and grammar is frightening. Are there so many illiterate idiots out there in this country. Some of them can’t even spell casual. Very sad indeed.
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AS THIS IS A CLOTHES FORUM, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A LITTLE RUDE NOT 2 GIVE MY OPINION ON THE MATTER, COME ON LADS THIS ANINT CALLED WHO CAN TALK THE MOST BULLSHIT BEHIND A COMPUTER SCREEN, I DID LIKE BURBERY BUT ONLY ORIGINAL, I STILL LIKE THE BRAND BUT HAVE STOPPED WARING IT BECAUSE OF ALL THE PIPKIES WEARING THEIR FAKE GEAR GIVING IT A BAD NAME AND MAKING US LOOK LIKE MUPPETS WHO WORK HARD AND CAN AFFORD TO WEAR THE REAL THING, AT THE MOMENT I’M IN TO STONE ISLAND, EVISU, LACOSTE AND RALPH LAUREN. NOT BECAUSE THIER OVERPRICED AND WE WANNA BE BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE IT JUST LOOKS GOOD AND FEEL GOOD AND THE LADIES LOVE A MAN WITH A BIT OF CLASS, REMEMBER YOU DONT JUST HAVE TO LOOK THE PART YOU HAVE TO BE THE PART.CANT WAIT TIL CARDIFF AND WE WILL WIN THE BATTLE ON AND OFF THE PITCH, YOU HAVE TO BE AN OPTIMIST TO BE AN IRONS FAN JUST ASK THE OTHERS. BUT REMEMBER A TRUE FAN STAYS THROUGH THICK AND THIN, AND MOST OF YOU ARE BLODDY THICK ANYWAY SO KNOW WHAT I’M TALKIN ABOUT!? COME ON YOU HAMMERS!!WESTHAM TILL I DIE!ASH THE FASH! TILL NEXT TIME.
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LEts start talking serious boys. this season, to what iv witnessed.aberdeen are still strong but killie and hearts are making a decent name for their youths.rangers,either home ot away, they never turn up.celtic, do they still have a mob.dundee,few game boys turned up to us.but couldnt handle it,fair play to they boys.falkirk,early this season had a minor runnig wi their older boys.thats all.and never heard or seen motherwell.but us (hibs), weve always taking a firm to games home and away
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THE LAST POSTED MESSAGE BY A FELLOW HIBS LAD SUMS UP SCOTLANDS MOBS TO A T. SO ALL YOU WANNABES WHO ARE SAYIN THIS THAT AND THE FUCKING NEXT THING ABOUT YOUR TWO BOB MOBS GET A GRIP ON YOUR LIFE. HIBS ARE SCOTLANDS ELITE THE REST ARE RUNNERS AND SHITEBAGS CCS BABY CREW
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anytime you fuckin hibby scum
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Perth catholic team are no runners so cum thruogh any time hibees. BUT MORE THAN ANY THING YOU JAMBOS AND HUNS NEED A GOOD KICKIN TO MAKE U HARDER UR 2 SOFT PERTH ARE WAITIN SAINTS WILL BE UP NEXT SEASON AND BEWARE> OH WEN THE SAINTS GO MARCHING ON OH WEN THE SAINTS GO MARCHING ON heh heh
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C.C.S ONCE THE BEST ALWAYS THE BEST C.C.S
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To any pretenders to the throne out there. Just a small note to let all you fuckers know that blackburn run the show always have, always will. Generation after generation, this history began in 1903 in bathgate steelyard when joe wallis (blackburn) set clean about 15 up and comings fea bathgate, whitburn and the surrounding areas. Needless to say Big Joe walked away with his chipie straw hat still intact. Ever Since Blackburn has been an intstitution, a name to fear. In Memory of joe wallis. BBW 1903-2006. Nobody kicks the fuck out of you like the blackburn bushwackers do!!! JOE YOU ARE A LEGEND
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We at head office of the bbw are trying to throw summit big together for a one off renunion to celebrate just over 100 years aniversary, a shindig for the legend that is JOE WALLIS. ANY Old BBW MEMBERSPAST AND PRESENT UP FOR ATOP NIGHT GET IN TOUCH AND WE WILL START THINGS ROLLING FROM THE KIOSK OR THE TRINLEY. Lets look after our ancestors as they looked after us. BBW TIL I DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Joe Wallis weighed in at just over 9 stone and carried a height of around 5” 4 but the fucker fought like an animal
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all dis bollix talk not one of yiz a real footie fan, scruffy jock cunts and mouthy english queers talkin tru der holes about der shite fuckin clothes and poxy bleedin firms, yiz probly pull de balls off yizzerselves watchin green st. rangers r fuckin scum, celtic r muck, who de fuck r abberdeen? hearts n hibs only meet up 2 suck each others cocks, scousers r dirt, iraq has more goin 4 it than manchester, we’l say nutn bout blackburn cos der fuckin laughed at and last but not least de fuckin cockney twats poser cunts wit small dicks, yiz wont win fuckall in germany eitheir yiz hyped up shower of scumbag shams. delighted.
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big joe what a leg end cock sucker bush wanker
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To take a few moments to revert to the reason for this forum. In 1984 I was on holiday in Marbella aged 15. I met three guys on holiday. A 16 year old guy from Liverpool and a pair of twins from London. I was wearing shit catchers, coaster slip-ons and baggy shirts. I knew from the moment I saw these guys I looked like such a style-less dick-head. They were wearing Sergio gear, Lacoste polo’s, Levi 501’s, Farrahs, Oxford smooth caps,Original White Kickers,Diadora Tennis Shoes, Raybans. Cool College boy haircuts. It was a total revelation to me. These guys all had a common thread in terms of style but individually were very diffrent in their personal taste. That was what appealed to me. The individuality was what really caught my eye.
From 1984 until 1989 I was really interested in the whole scene. I loved that fact that Hibs crew at that time were individually distinct from one another. Hibs boys would not be seen dead wearing the same gears as their mates. The look had a real continental flavour. I personally think people under estimated/completely ignore the influence the of the Edinburgh Festival on the Edinburgh crews. All the continental fashion on show for all to see and be influenced by for 8 weeks in the summer every year. You must bear in mind that the scene was largely still underground in terms of the mass populace of youth. Dressing in Casual gear did make you stand out and did attract menace, but fuck that when you look cool.
I remmember Michelle Gallo in Rose Street and going in and intentionally asking to try on gear on the bottom shelf so I could check the female sales assistant tits out. Buying Giscol french import jeans, tweed trousers, getting Levis tailored into flares with trianguler fillets added, Seaside port shoes, deck shoes, dash knitwear from John Lewis, Armand Bassi t-shirt cardigans.
As with all youth movements the style becomes diluted the more it is proliferated. The classic gear becomes the dominant style and the eclectic sports wear/ designer mix is edged out. Pity I feel as I have seen really sharp crews turning heads. I can’t remmember the last time I spotted a bunch of young guys who really caught my eye. Its almost like dressing by numbers but hey…….I’m just an old cunt now so what do I know. -
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Good post mod.
The clobber then was the bollox. You can go into any shopping centre in this shit hole of a country today and see all the terrace favs fae 84/85.Which is a crying shame.Anyway i mind i got kicked to death by the utility lads in 1986 in Dundee city centre. There was one big cunt called mike tunstall and he clobberd me and stuck his timberland moccasins on ma boat. I escaped inta a pizza place and just then the OB arrived..thank fuck! Jute bastards.
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Cheers,
The point I was really trying to make is that in the 80’s especially it wasn’t so much about how much you spent on clothes but how you wore them. I remember Telford college in the mid 80’s. Seriously well dressed lad doing it for not a lot of money. Simple elegance. More stylists in those days. Prada. CP. et al is great gear, and is value for money but if every one is wearing it the subversive element is all but lost. I loved baggy jumbo cords, paisley pattern button shirts and zx600’s. I can recall in 1986 in Olympus in Edinburgh standing next to two wee Hibs boys. They had a perfectly lucid discussion about the pro’s and cons of zx600 versus Gazelles. The lad opted for the zx600 on the grounds that they would give some poor cunt a better kickin’. Absolute class. -
Cheers,
The point I was really trying to make is that in the 80’s especially it wasn’t so much about how much you spent on clothes but how you wore them. I remember Telford college in the mid 80’s. Seriously well dressed lad doing it for not a lot of money. Simple elegance. More stylists in those days. Prada. CP. et al is great gear, and is value for money but if every one is wearing it the subversive element is all but lost. I loved baggy jumbo cords, paisley pattern button shirts and zx600’s. I can recall in 1986 in Olympus in Edinburgh standing next to two wee Hibs boys. They had a perfectly lucid discussion about the pro’s and cons of zx600 versus Gazelles. The lad opted for the zx600 on the grounds that they would give some poor cunt a better kickin’. Absolute class. -
lol class.
I remember the paisley shirt stage. Had a few.
We jumped on a train in Perth circa winter 84 en route tae a Skol cup final and im sure all the ASC were wearing them too, Mabey they can verify it, or are mabey to ashamed to admit it!! Ski tops, kagouls and the like were the game.I loves all the gear.mind I was at Queen street around 1986 and saw around 400 casuals, getting an OB escort, all decked out in deerstalkers and burberry,possibly ASC? think a few of the top boys at the front even had these walking/hiking sticks,They looked amazing. I stay clear of the usual gear on the go the now, except CP Co, which is simply awsome clobber,Theres a jacket on their webby the noo for £450 and im tempted…!
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I used to run with the REAL ASC “Ayr Service Crew” Thru the late 80
s and into the 90s. We had more than a decent mob for a smaller club. We stood our ground with a few of the big boys and I`ve still got the Scars to prove it!!It
s good to see mentions from the MBS and the FEAR as we had some great offs in the lower leagues. They were the real dos no filth escorting you all over the shop.Anyone remember when the whole of Scotland let England walk past them at Hampden except the CCS and a few of us from AYR? What about charging England at half time thru the gates at the Celtic end? We hade a serious do with Birmingham City at the petrol station at the Plaza great day.
The old firm were anonimous that day, the utility and the Aberdeen SC fucked off early and Killie got taxi`s to Newton Mearns and caught buses home!!
Anyone remember the Killie Soccer Dressers? what a shower of Fannies they were? or The Love Stree Ladies…some of them were quite tasty!!
Haven`t been down Somerset way for years, anything going on? The old intrest is starting again
AYRSHIRE HOOOOOLIGANS……SERVICE CREW! SERVICE CREW! the memories are great
Jonny McT
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Ha Ha, what a bunch of dobs you hun cunts are. Behind the Gorgie Road Loyal in the league? shameful. I seen a bunch of your Inter City Fannies on Paisley Road West wi the long sleeved Orange away tops to cover the trackmarks and some piss stained shiny three stipe under there socks. What a bunch of scaffy cunts. CSC # 1
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Wee Macca, celtic have never had a firm wherer u like it or not. CCS run the show in Scotland, always have always will.
(1875)HIBERNIAN FOOTBALL CLUB (1875)
CAPITAL CITY SERVICE
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Celtic never had a real “mob” matey. Even us little guys took mobs to Parkhead by train and performed!!
AYRSHIRE HOOOOOLIGANS……SERVICE CREW! SERVICE CREW!
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First of all. Celtic don’t want a firm. To all those buckie swelling neds that posted about the csc and the IRA. Don’t demean the IRA by trying to put them and the csc together. The csc are a bunch of daft neds, pretty much the same as every other casuals. Secondly you should realise how daft you all sound. I used to run with gangs in Castlemilk but I grew out of that when I was 16. And the boys from there were a lot tougher than any football casual I have ever seen. ICF-I thought they were West Ham, CSC-don’t exist, CCS-I’ve felt more intimidated in Newton Mearns, Dundee- great place to live once you retire. Most of you can’t even fill 10000 seater stadiums. Yet you all jump about as if your nutcases. Well I’ve seen real nutcases, and not one of you would have lasted five minutes around these people.
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ayreshire who?you fukers dont have a mob ,well maybe some smelly tinkers from zulu thats about it ,dumb cunts come to perth if your giro leaves you enough for the ticket up here .!!! wankers ,ecc supporters of mbs perth .
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Re posted “Football casuals are gay”
You are a boasting bell-end.Ive had it with loads of Celtic Hoolihgans.And know loads too.So go and Fuck yourself.
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MOD, in the late 80s most well dressed mobs were all dressing in a contintal feel, remember Charles Chevinon, Biscoti, Ciao, verte vallee, matinique,fiorrici classic nouveau,replay, bournivelle,liberto, ball denims, pop 84, chippie,best company, ZX’s,burlington socks, ox blood DM’s and blazers and kipper ties all these brands never stood the test of time as far as I know. I do remember DASH that you mentioned, supprised anyone else did. They made good sweatshirts really colourful ranges each season.
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I personally think people under estimated/completely ignore the influence the of the Edinburgh Festival on the Edinburgh crews.
Good point, mod - never would’ve occured to me.
Cheers for getting the conversation back to clothes, too.
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bring on the hearts the hibs the rangers bring on ur inter milan toichaidh ar la toichaidh ar la
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been ta celtic ! been ta tha gers ! been ta hibbies and tha tarts , only one av got respect for is the capital service lads . mind this was a long time ago but best dressed def gans te tha dons, very smart bunch and handy. am now starting ta travel up nd watch tha hibs nd luv it, there’s alot ov clone island , cp , aqua , and adidas . but does’nt look half as good as tha classics , pringle,farah,origional 80’s adidas ,fila ,la coste ,kappa de robe ,diadora . or maybe am stuck in a time warp or sad, but a divv’nt care ONCE A CASUAL ALLWAYS A CASUAL . i only like ta dress now not dance but often see tha young ones get naughty and hav ta remind mysell am too old now with 2 kids , who hopefully will dress ta impress when older but keep out of trouble! fingers crossed. HOWAY THA HIBS.
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Really have to laugh at the complete crap from Celtic scarfers with all the ‘Provo’ and ‘Our Day Will Come’ bollocks. Get yourself over to Belfast and start shouting your mouth off. Even your own side will remove your kneecaps for acting like cunts.
Likewise the UVF bullshit from RFC fans. Can’t see the connection between drug-dealing paramilitaries and casual football violence?
Fuck up about something you know fuck all about.
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I am a Hibs casual have been since the 90s i have started trouble at tyncastle inside and outside the ground remeber when Gary Naismith was hit by a coin when anti niemie was hit by an objct thrown by hibs fans we have attacked rangers goalkeeper andy goram and referee stuart dougal we are known throughout britian the police barrackade the streets outside easter road to keep visiting fans safe we are mental aberdeen are scared of us
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ccs scotlands number 1 yid army englands number 1 always will do !!!!
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I remember when we were playing leeds in the whyte and myckay cup a couple of years ago and the ccs hibs casuals beat up 5 leeds fans in edinburgh city centre it was great we told them tae get the fuck back to england scummy tramps praise the ccs edinburgh and scotlands number 1
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re hibs casual1990 5 was always about the biggest mob u cunts could handle and as far as u celtic our day will come pricks its not even fun any more kicking the shit out you no challenge ya tattie houkin pricks your day did come the end of season 04-05 at fir park fancy a mcdonalds 2 for 1 thers only 2 real mobs in scotland ss and asc the rest of you dressers are playing catch up those who need to know ,know thats the truth mfc ss ya mugs
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re hibs casual1990 5 was always about the biggest mob u cunts could handle and as far as u celtic our day will come pricks its not even fun any more kicking the shit out you no challenge ya tattie houkin pricks your day did come the end of season 04-05 at fir park fancy a mcdonalds 2 for 1 thers only 2 real mobs in scotland ss and asc the rest of you dressers are playing catch up those who need to know ,know thats the truth mfc ss ya mugs
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Motherwell who are they ?? never heard of them and im from scotland remember it was only a few months ago we smashed up the motherwell team bus on easter road it was the hibs casuals i also remember smashing aberdeen fans at the waverly train station last year the only mob still operating in scotland is the ccs hibs casuals i havent heard of any others in the news 4 ages lol u are finished we are still going strong praise tony mowbray praise hibs fc praise edinburgh the ccs and the hibs baby crew
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did celtic not gas hibs at easter road and humiliate them back in the late 80’s. all the talk in the world cant beat, can it ???
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A was at the hibs v celtic game when we got CS’d, a wis a bairn at the time in the auld cow shed (famous 5 now) and which triggered off ma hatred for all other scottish firms and lifelong support of the CCS.
The guys who got huckled for it were a couple o soap doggin’ muppets on the glue, hardly substantiates a crew.
East Lothian boys had a big impact mid 80s to mid 90s on the edinburgh firms with a lot of boys hooked up with HBC, CCS and the scum across the at swine castle CSF fuds.
Italian street style, paninaro, we lived it.
We used to wear pods, seaside walking shoes and ZX trainers with chippie, C17 jeans and jumpers, lacoste polos with retour and classic nouveau making an appearance. Ciao and chevignon jackets were top clobber. Burberry short jackets, first edition with woolen tartan inside and matchin scarf.
Main early shops were buzzini on cockburn street and rose street with cruise opening up on rose street with a tiny wee shop. Thats when Armani started getting seen on trendies in Edinburgh. Versace came along but lookin back was shit gear, and probably stemmed fi the soap dodgers. Then came stone island which is still the best fitba gear.
Naebody does it like the hibs boys, biast or no, you canny deny that. Aberdeen were good in there day, game, but faded away when Jay, Strath and the rest of the main boys went doon or lost interest. A can remeber a game at pittordie 88/89 when they had mibbee 800 boys. Amazing sight but run like fuck when we turned on them at the grave yard. A lot of young boys though, probably just oot to witness the legendary CCS.
Keep Edinburgh tidy, kill a jambo today.
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I was at tynecastle in 1994 when we broke the 23 games in a row i was only 8 years old but will always remember walking out onto the gorgie road after the game we smashed hearts fans all over the place the hibs casuals and hibs baby crew were in there prime i wish it would get back to those days but with cctv it will never be the same
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I urge all genuine ASC of past and present to avoid adding any further futile comments to this thread.
We know what happened back in the old days and we know what is happening now.
No need to boast about anything or let outsiders know.
As for Hibs in particular I’ll say only this, in our encounters over the years we’ve won some and we’ve lost some and that’s the way it is with EVERY mob.
cheers
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Divit till i die….
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have st johnstone got a mob for the new season ??
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The fixtures for the new season have just been announced its Hibs v Aberdeen in Edinburgh !! one of the most violent fixtures in the SPL the hibs casuals will be [rest of comment deleted]
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to the hibs cunt yes st.johnstone will always have a mob the last time ur were in perth u got a doing outside the ground dont belive me ask blanchie he canny fight sleep and hes ur top boy ha! ha! CU SOON
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blah blah
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blackburn bushwackers this n that???…you must be a young boy…well boy..go and ask yer da about the paninari from livingston we were no1 in west lothian in the eighties and mid nineties until raves killed the scene.and the secret? no matter how outnumbered we were 3 or 4 to 1 or more….we never ran as we always knew that our lads would always stand by your side.
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[Deleted a few comments: please don’t post about where you’re planning to fight, and leave off the England/Scotland crap please.]
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Born a Red die a red !!!!!!!!!! ICJ & COCKNEY REDS !!!!!!!!
For all you muppets out there who do not know who the FAMOUS
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The Scots casuals especially fae Edinburgh are the hardest casuals in the uk cant wait till july 29th hibs v aberdeen in the scots capital!! praise the ccs and the hibs baby crew no english mob can compete with us hahahahahah
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Cockney Reds are the cause of one of my favourite chants: you only live round the corner.
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Some good stories from the glory days of the scene on here, shame you need to trawl through all the usual bullshit posts from know-nothing kids!
The recent resurgence in the scene has brought a new generation of lads to the scene but in my opinion hasnt stopped the decline of the scene, walk through any city centre in Scotland on a match day and you’ll see real lads….but its still on its last legs I’m afraid!
The fashion side has all but gone due to the mainstream popularity of most casual labels….Burberry (killed by the neds) Aquascutum (RIP too)…now Paul & Shark and Stone Island have been adopted by the better off neds!!
CP Company still has its main fanbase in the casual scene and long may it last! New labels like One True Saxon too are more or less casual only but it pains me to see the indie kids and wanky TV presenter types have taken Lyle & Scott for themselves…cunts!!
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Wot i want to know is why sum wanker of a st mirren wanabe is naimng hibs boys admin please get this boy bloked you are basically a grass! every one knows the old bill comes on these forums and why did some wanabe hibs boy say we will be outside teh omni at 5 to aberdeen of couse we wont be outside teh omni will people please stop talkin shit and mentioning people names.
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re hibs boy im not a wannabe casual iv caused trouble at plenty of games i was once seen on sky sports hearts v hibs 2000 fighting police [rest of comment deleted]
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Ayr had a crazy, well dressed crew. I remember the top boys were [names removed] etc. Ayr Service Crew always stood against any other crew in the 80’s. I can remember [names removed] standing against a mob of ICF in Central station and doing them by flinging trollies down the escalators at them. Fun times ;)
I can remember Ayr running rangers out of town again, when they played at Somerset in 1988.
They had a great long running feud with the tramps from kilmarnock, and the icing on the cake was when Fulton got the top boy [name removed] from Killie’s girlfriend pregnant, and at matches, Fulton would always shout over the segregation fence if [name removed] wanted ‘any money for the wean?’ lol. -
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Deleted a few more comments, and sections of comments: don’t post details of where you’re planning to fight, and don’t post any name other than your own.
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Jack Mottram my comments have been fair and to the point ure out of order deleating them the police dont even check this blog to see when were fighting they go to the aberdeen forums thats where the real planning happens praise hibs and ccs and edinburgh
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Hibs Casual - legally speaking, I’m the publisher of comments here, and I obviously don’t want to risk getting into trouble if, say, a specific fight is mentioned on my site. (I doubt the police are reading this now, but they might do after the fact, and this page is top result on Google for Hibs casual, and a searches for stuff like Hibs football violence show this page up in the top five…)
So if you want to talk about current football violence, I’d prefer it if you do it elsewhere, if you want to talk about casual gear - go right ahead!
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leeds united
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I think the anger of most Hibs fans started in the long hot summer of 1990 when Wallace Mercer ( may he rest in hell !! ) tried to shut us down as a club thats why the hibs crews hit there hites in the early nineties( i was too young to remember my info is fae older casuals ) Hibs and Hearts have never been the same the gloating of Hearts and Aberdeen was shoking but thats why now 16 years on we give them a good beating b4 and after games praise hibs the ccs and north edinburgh
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Section B fucks ye all ! Motherwell scum !
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alright im just wonderin if anyone knows about the make addict its gettin a big make over wer im from just wonderin if any 1 know it.
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Scotland Vs England Last time we invaded our northern outpost you were chased all over glasgow.Some top english firms with some top boys.West ham,spurs,stoke,wolves millwall sheff utd.And not forgetting the zulus.scottish boys in stone island coats and kilts??..One newspaper reported invasion of the english casuals..Great day out.
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wait until charlton come up tae play hibs wel see what happens tae the english
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Anybody else getting sick of seeing stone island?
It seems as thought it has exploded in recent times, not too sure all of it is real though.CP company is nice wear, but someone needs to give them a tape measure.
We need adidas to return the Bill trainer and jeans trainer.
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RE PETE the reason the english fought in glasgow is cause rangers and celtic dont have any firms if u were palying in Edinburgh it would have been a different story the hibs casuas would have sent u home to think again southern scum
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I am looking for confirmation of who won the ICF scum bag Hibs fight in Dundee ??? It def looks like the ICF in little numbers took you Hbs mob. I am only going by the CCTV images that are there for everyone to look at.
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FROM A ABERDEEN LAD RANGERS HAVE NEVER DONE HIBS AND DID NOT DO THEM IN THAT VIDEO.
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What a joke Rangers have never had a proper crew whenever thev came to Edinburgh to fight Hibs theyve always got smashed by the ccs whenver theyve went up to aberdeen they got smashed as well praise the ccs and edinburgh
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I think they gave not a bad account of thereselves cos they were certainly outnumbered and they def did the attacking. There appears to be a bit of a revival happening at the Gers games …
wait and see
We are the people
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west enclousure did you not watch your man talking about rangers on the real football factorys on bravo he pritty much said that you dont have a mob and the trouble only hapens over religion. rangers have never been a patch on hibs. scotlands number 1 and proung
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RANGERS HAVE TO BE THE MOST ACTIVE MOB THIS SEASON BY FAR!
AND HBC DONT LIE RANGERS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A BAD PATCH ON HIBS. THT VIDEO IN DUNDEE EXPLAINS IT.
RANGERS SOCCER BABES UP AND COMING …NO SURRENDER TO THE TARRIERS .F.T.P.
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Thanks for the trip back in time….. I came across this site while looking for Adidas ZX450 trainers - silver/grey with blue - best looking trainers ever (1985-86?) - I’ve been trying to find them on the net or ebay for a few years now without success…. 80s clothing I remember well includes 501s, Valentino, Lacsote, Pringle Jumpers from Crowleys golf shop in the lane off Argyle street, Chevignon Jackets, Diadora Seb Coe tariners, Llendl court trainers, those mad patterned Next jumpers in green/yellow, Kickers from that tiny shop in the Trongate, G-Force baggy jeans (sometimes worn inside out) from Ichi Ni San in Glasgow. Burberry bush hats (leather with the check inside), Troop Excitement, Troop in Effect, Travel Fox, Ted Baker shirts, Pop84, Boss (before Rocky4 made them popular and the fake ones that came back from Spain), Leather jackets with cartoon patches, OP , Chipie…
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right lets stop all this CCS are the best mob, ASC are the best mob….keep that for match day. Me and a few of my friends have starting to go back to 80s style casual clothes, fila bj tops and adidas originals and some classic adidas trainers…there is too much fake stone island and aquascutum available and any little mug who thinks hes a football hooligan can go down the barras and get some knock of gear at a tenth of its original price. keep the casual scene exclusive..no mugs…no shite bags..motherwell Saturday Service
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FUCK OFF. ALOT A BOLLOCKS FROM THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLEON THIS. WAN I AM A MEMBER OF THE CSC AND ALTHOUGH ACTIION HAS BEEN QUIET RECENTLY WEVE PROVED THAT WE’LL GIVE ANY FIRM A GOOD SCRAP. A MEEN TOE TAE FUCKIN TOE NAE PISH. WEVE ALWAYS BEEN WELL DRESSED AND STILL ARE. HIBS HIV AGOOD FIRM BIT WAN THING. AV BEEN A CASUAL FIR 20 YEARS AND I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF A SCRAP WAE ANY CELTIC BHOYS WITH DUMFERMLINE MOTHERWELL OR A REAL SCRAP WITH THE SS SHITE BAGS. SO KEEP THE FAITH IN THE CASUAL MOVEMENT AND WE’LL SCRAP WITH ANY CUNT IN BRITIAN .
R O M AN C A T H O L I C C A S U A L S .
FOUNDER MEMBERS OF OUR IMPROVMENT
C EL T I C S O C C E R C R E W .
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stone island to the end sly crew in your face
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asc yous cannae even fill your shity wee stadium never mind getting a team together icf still run the hooligan scene in scotland and yous all no that we can pull a right team nae tramps or shitebags in oor squad ……no surrender grfc no1 …..walter smiths blue &white army are back in business….cmon you sheep shaggers lets fukin go now icf icf icf icf
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Jesus does no-one know there history. Let me refresh you young neds memory so you dont forget ok. The casual tree in scotland runs as follows. 1st Aberdeen (A.S.C) kicked it all off 1980-81 ish we started dressing after some boys made a trip to a game in Liverpool so well done to the scousers for starting the whole thing off. 2nd I think you’ll find was (and this will piss the Edinburgh Muppets right off) Motherwell. 3rd Hearts and the rest of you no hope joke mobs can bring up the rear like you’ve always done. Oops almost forgot hibees WHO? Who are yah!! never heard of yah. Anyway “Scotland Scotland’s No1” “Stand Free”
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I am an original A.S.C member and have read most if not all the postings on this page and a couple of things have become apparent. There seems to be alot of boasting or should I say bullshit from a certain Edinburgh Crew (more than any other on here). Like wise there have been very few comments from another rather well know N.E Crew.
All that I’ll say is that we the Aberdeen Soceer Casuals have no need blaw or boast about what we have achieved or done over the years our reputation speaks for itself. While on the other hand the C.C.S seem to feel the need to build a reputation through blawing or BULLSHITING.We all know who ARE the ORIGINAL TREND SETTERS
A.S.C Scotlands No1 1983-2007
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HER BY DA WAY LISTEN TO ALL USE WOT AGE R USE 10 OR SUMMIT HEARTS R PURE SHITE SO IS DUNDEE CELTIC R DA BEST RANGERS R DA BEST SO GET IT RYT UP YEES YA WEE BUNCH O DAFTYS AM TELLLIN U GET A LYF MATE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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check the lad that says hes sick of seeing ppl wearing stone island
no.1 not all ppl that wear it are casuals..they wear it coz they can afford to wear it…
n0.2 half the ppl that do are wearing fake its easy to tell the diffrence..the real one is that the badge outline is green…the fake being like a lime green….
no.3..the lad is well jeal cos he can only wear donny specials or thinks hes a clubby book casual..bill being bumped of course…
n0.4..here lad…awa u go to the berries and tatties and neep picking and maybe if you do that for 20 yrs and save up ..you just might know how it feels to wear dear genuine clobber…
my wardrope is full of stone island as i like to keep up with the seasons fashion…
like wot rondo says clothes shouldnt come in to football thuggery anyway..its about havn the guts and heart to stay and play…clothes to me are about wearing them on a sat night to look the dogs bollocks and to pull and chik in the process…
i dont know nowt about casuals etc im a family man from whitfield dundee…and this is one mans point of view…ywsr lol
also wot i do no is if it wasnt for the drugs ie smack etc then maybe just maybe the casuals wouldnt be fading out..as there either monged and slavering on the foil…think it better to get a scrap at a football match than fighting a drug habit…if i was givn the choice it wouldnt be the latter..the main boys of the old auf were the dogs but are also most them are aids up or dead…all i know is that casuals will never be the same again in dundee and paul hunter u know this as you were one of the old…put it this way if the old sqaud came bak nowadays it would be a diffrent kind of adreanaline to wot it is now…like i say i no nowt about the casual game as i wasnt intrested..but i did no alot of the old gang ppl like davy johnstone and co…but look at the way hes turned out…catch ma drift lads…
say no to the foil just look at davy for eg sellin his erchie up at bullion fields along with benny craterpus baldy grass colgin….
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check out all you numptys..threatning this n that while growling and slavering pulling mad faces that would scare me me…
a the while saying cmon lets have ye were going to do this to you were going to do that to you,as i say a the while looking mean and looking like well ard fae eastys..
we can pull 300 hundred you can only pull 50 …trying to intimidate this n that a the while sitting behind the pc..ohhh wee auf are scared of the ihm a new breed in toon ooohhhh were so scared of the big huge internet hard man crew….dfc utility says it all…doent it lads…
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lol remember going down princess street edinburgh doing the hibs..and the late great john towells flair that hit a hibee ..lol.superb..dundee utility is in my soul..benzo..1984-1991..long live the bushwackers, utility..kiddy firm…
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lol.me again im 37..was there at the start of it in dundee….asc who the fuck are they…blackpool cowling and wegg bunch of posing faggotts…done em run em..remember union st dundee we done you fgaggott aberdeen bastards ..utility number one..respect to mike aiden asc and puffin you guys prob dont know who im on about the real aberdeen where good lads had an honour not like the wegian minks…zx 800 and cords ..nice dressers…1984…tacchini..la coste..fila borg…floppy hats and no minky burberry in sight..pop 84..best company and clarks walking shoes..nice the old school casuall had taste..not on heroin or downers like they are now..respect to mcgurk..wilson.fergie brockie dek green who were real dressers..long live the gazzelle..timbie mocchasins and el charros..utility numero uno..benzo.
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EH?!
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I just deleted a few comments: arguing about who’s harder than who is boring, racism is downright offensive. Clothes, remember?
Also, while I’m here, FourFourTwo have asked me to write a feature on female casuals, like Alison who commented back in 2005. If anyone reading this page is/was a woman casual, or knows any women who are/were, please get in touch.
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Great article. I’ve just launched my very onw website on this very subject http://www.footballcasual.com. Why not give it a visit and let me know your thoughts.
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WHAT THE FUCK U LOT TALKING ABOUT,TRY RUNNING WITH THE CHELSEA…….
NO KIDS ,JUST HARD BASTARDS,TAKE ANY FIRM AND ALWAYS WILL…..
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MON THE HOOPS
CHAMPIONEES CHAMPIONEES
OH THE RANGERS ARE SHITE
!! TIOCFAIDH AR LA !!
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celtic are pure shite man icf aww the way n it wis wan nuhin tae us true blues on sunday ha ha aww the tims oot there
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AM a dons fan, ma auld man is a hun and ma fathers best mate a tim, all of agree without any arguin,
A.S.C. was the 1st, always will be the 1st Scottish casuals.
as for the english element, ?
well next year we shall see won’t we, EH???
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Dont forget the A.U.F
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lots of selective memory on this forum,im going to buck the trend here,not one mobs been to gorgie this year and even tried,its not going to happen
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comn the celtic soccer crew and derry city youth we h8 loyalists scum huns always run tiocfaidh ar la
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Regrettably, but predictably, this board is full of uninformed nonsense, from wannabes, never-weres and no marks.
There is no doubt that there are, historically, four firms worth talking about in scotland:
aberdeen asc, hibs ccs, rangers icf and motherwell ss.
there seems to be a concerted effort to invent a history for hearts csf across numerous outposts in cyberspace. many of the remarks are much similar and i suspect a small number of individuals, who i applaud for effort, but are otherwise dreamers.
anyway, aberdeen and motherwell deserve credit for creating the scottish casual scene. aberdeen and hibs are the only horses in the race when discussing the greatest ever scottish firm, but rangers get credit for being a cut above everybody else.
aberdeen vs hibs is really too close to call, and largely goes with personal preference. both have things in their favour: aberdeen can boast innovation and longevity, whereas hibs were top guns when the scene was at it’s peak in scotland, and pulled off some remarkable stunts both in scotland and beyond.
at the end of the day, i wouldn’t like to split them, and this old dog calls it a score draw.
as for whether some hearts kid at someone’s school was a casual a couple of weeks before everyone else - so what. even if it’s true, which i’m deepy sceptical of, it’s a mere historical footnote. hearts disappeared off the map rapid. hibs are the only show in town with regards to edinburgh’s contribution to the casual scene.
as for utility - a very good at times, but lack the historical pedigree.
celtic also had a very good firm for a time despite the bluster from teenage cyber-loyalists, but they didn’t last long.
smaller clubs have often punched above their weight: airdrie notably, but also Partick Thistle, QoS, St Johnstone and so on.
But at the end of the day it’s aberdeen and hibs, hibs and aberdeen. Whenever anyone talks about the casual history of scotland, it’s about these two, everything else is defined in relation to that.
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hello from croatia
why you didn t show your flags on the main square in Zagreb??
ha ha ha
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pop84 did u come to perth when aberdeen brought around 800-1000 boys for a day out that bring back memories even the old bill didnt have a clue
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This is a message from the Hibs casuals we will be playing rangers in edinburgh soon we will be in edinburgh city centre waiting on these english pro british unionist scum we hate britian we hate england scottish hibees forever whatch urselfs rangers were going to get u
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Jack Mottram dont delete any comments from hibs casuals we dont take kindly to people butting into our comments of hate ok praise north edinburgh the ccs hibs and john collins hahah hearts are no more than a pub team hahahah
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ppl need to stop livn in the past,BACK IN THE DAY WAS THE REAL THING FOOTBALL CASUALS N ALL,C NOW ITS ONLY HANGER ON ERS,that make up the numbers and there always standn at the back ready to bolt,as the skitters are falling out the bottoms of there false replays,its good to wear desighner labels n that but most of us dont wear it to become a casual,i dont care who u are the only way i would fight would be as if silly wankers came to my door,kettle of hot water and a few pots on the cooker,people have got enuff shite in their lives without us listning to bull about whos harder than who,see the real hard man,hes the one that sits in the house after a days work and goto bed early at night,but stand in his way hurt or maim him or his family then you will see wots real and wots not,theres enuff ass holes out there like neighbours and passers by gieing ye chib,without joining the casuals and gettn into more bother,fuk that,ppl can only fight nowadays with about 20 cunts standn behind him,try one on one,c how far most of you lads last,some of u lads gieing it the big yin need to grow up and get off the smack cos realism to wot your saying is in the tin foil,leave the past in the past,,,,
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To the leithy and stockbridge boys there in the days, I miss them. Saturday uo Pricess street waiting for the next train to come in! Happy days.
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were going to beat the fuk out of rangers fans on sunday
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any chance of sortin a meet wi chelsea when celic come to london,thur a fare few x csc who wont grow up
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aw the pish about hibs and the huns,we were the the original trend setters and toe steppers;even at xmas bumped into a few icf on my own , never said fukall cos a ran use 2 many times
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Newcastle have the hardest firm in the gremlins.
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been running with luton mig crew for the past 12 years, best mobs down here are- man utd,spurs and boro. are the ayr service crew still active,remember them taking 150 to east end park for a cup game in 88
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as well as battering rangers in a friendly at somerset park the same season
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ASC were the top boys,closely followed by the hibs!
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reading through some of the old postings, cannae believe blackburn bushwackers are still going,and i thought whitburn were the ‘soccer goons’? as for ayr doing it at celtic,i think ‘johnny mc t’ means the league cup game in aug 88. ayr took around 100 but fuck it by all getting taxi’s from central. and what type of type of pricks try to arrange fights on the internet? if your a proper lad you’ll have the contacts
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To Anyone and Everyone!
Liverpool started it in England and too close a contest between who was top in Scotland but has to be between Aberdeen and Hibs, Aberdeen was doing well in Europe at the time and thus probably saw the casual scene England had, before any other Scottish team. Hibs at their peak were unbeatable.
I was a youngster in the MBS with St Johnstone and fought a good few battles in my day.
I’ll note them not to brag, just to recollect the laughs all you guys had oot there on a Saturday be it home or away.
I remember we took a bus to Ayr in 89, I was 15, but well dressed as worked part time in Valentinos the only decent designer shop in Perth.
52 of us on the bus, we stopped off at the pub the Ayr boys drank in and totally surprised them, from memory it was a white building a wee bit like a cotttage, next to a dual carriageway.
What a laugh we were scrapping all over the shop.
Then the filth came put everyone of the Perth mob back on the bus and took us all to the copshop, 2 boys fae Perth ,Finnie & Funky went straight to Barlinnie cos they had charges pending or were out on bail.
When they told us to empty oor pockets in the Nick, they took my wallet and said oot loud in front o abody tae the Desk Sargeant,
“1 Wallet, £35 and two condoms, what’s your date o birth Son.”
A my mates were in stitches as I was only 15.
Then to add insult to Injury, they put a us under agers in the same big holding cell, we one pisser and I was bursting tae.
Anyway they drove us a back to Perth where my Maw was waiting in Perth Copshop, It’s aboot 11:45 pm and after I’m cautioned I had to sign for my stuff as the cop tarvelling wi us fae Ayr had brought a the clear ziplock bags doon wi him tae Perth, that was fun signing for 2 condoms in front of your Ma. -
Man, good to see this thread going from 4/12/2003
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Had some cracking rows in the 80,S , ones that stick out are Aberdeen. Motherwell. Ayr and away games at Falkirk. For a small team St Johnstone did alright and a few mobs got more than they bargained for after a trip to Perth. F.C.F. 1983.
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Anyone fancy meeting up and swapping some nice knitting patterns? Mugs.
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Good book Ronnie, wasnt involved in the casuals myself but some good stories in it, seems to be fairly balanced as well. Still mind the Aberdeen casuals after the relegation battle in ‘95, closest Ive been to the action I reckon although seen plenty fights down Arklay Street and the likes.
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Scottie M, i remember that game your on about was in the paper the next day that you lot had been nicked. A first division game, both Ayr and Saints had been promoted the year before, did a few Stirling (Including a Bird) not get jail for stabbing a couple of youse the year before, Mainline Baby sqaud also painted ‘Perth Casuals’ on Stirlings astro-turf
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Wasnae you that wrote the book Ronnie, was Kenny McCall and John Robb. Still a class read though.
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pity the cctv was invented it was the coz of a lot of guys stopping going to the games that and old age..i remember the good old days in dundee..we had a great mob..met the best from the mobs..bongo(hibs) cowling..blackpool..jay allen.(asc.) its no the same now..long live the 80s..dundee kiddy firm 1985..benzo..aka as stockport.
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[The following comment is by ‘southlondonboy’, not me, but it got caught in the spam filters, and I accidentally deleted it—Jack]
getting back to the point..CLOTHES..
first I’m (almost) 39 which made me 13 in 1981 and all I can say is that the brands sported by the ‘dons’ back then were:
Fila, (not Tacchini or Ellese as these were second best)
Aquascutum, (the check is slicker than Burberry)
Lois Jumbos, (Farahs were what we wore to school), Waffles were for those who couldnt affors Farah
Pringle, (because of the LION on the chest), Lyle & Scott was acceptable but came after Pringle, The Golf look circa 1983, came after the Tennis.
Adidas, (adicolor/sambas etc), over Nike..(Wimbledon were considerably cheaper), Although the holy grail were of course GOLD Diadora Borg Elites, (the only diadoras to wear), Kickers were worn by some but were a bit bulky.
Not forgetting the Patent shoes with the Gold bar, the Baskets or the Nicklebys.Lacoste Polos, (the pastel colours went well with the Pringle Jumper), the Shark brand came later.
of course the Wedge was the only haircut to have, (dependent on your hair type).. if you had curly..wet look perm was your main option.
Did this look originate in Liverpool? I can’t say because I’m not a scouser but I have my doubts. were Liverpool the only club in Europe back then? and if so would it not be more likely that it was the only chance most people had to get hold of ‘the look’ without paying for it. Lets not forget that the clothes were talking about were expensive and unless one was ‘ducking and diving’ there wasn’t many who could afford them.
What I DO know for sure is that Borg, (and Fila), were big in the mid to late 70’s but the Tennis look had already been around a few years before then. Not looking to piss on anyones fire but the Sportswear trend was first sported by grown up LONDON Mods in the early 70’s as a reference to it’s first outing in the early to mid 60’s. Lets not forget that Fred Perry was BIG in the 60’s and not for sporting reasons.
Basically EVERY youth trend is in some way connected to Mod as it was the first genuine youth SubCulture to have ‘mass’ appeal.
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you lot should be ashamed of yersels you were this we were that, total mince ! gilmour st station not many had a good trip
lsd try it sum time hahahaha……. -
yeah all the hibs junkies saying this and that,talk big.yeah im sure you lot remember the ulhuru in tollcross and fountainbridge,you,s were done big time by the csf,we r the hearts
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Anything happening with the Italians?
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Hey,
I get all my gear from NOT Addicted Casual Clothing http://www.not-addicted.co.uk
Very cheap Sergio Tacchini, 80s Casuals, Northern Couture, Casual Connoisseur etc.
Check it out!
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we only wear the very best-fukin hibs a’deen-soap dogin’ cunts ,oh and the dundee utility-no1west ham -firm
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i suppose if throwing something through a window constitutes doing hibs big time for you jambo mugs by all means go for it, you have never & will never do hibs ya trumpet
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The Casuals thing did start in Liverpool, around the time of the Charity Shield in August ‘77 against the Mancs. The Reds, if you remeber had just won the European Cup, in addition to the UEFA cup the year before and the match at Wembley was the first instance of those brands being worn instead ofthe usual footy colours, though scarves were in evidence also. There’s to be an exhibition on the movement and the fashion in Liverpool next year sometime at the Walker Art Gallery.
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Good to see so many lads still into their clobber. Never really cared so much about the fighting, just more about looking the bollocks in designer labels. Think we’re a dying breed though.
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I am 41 now and was a mod at school around 79 like most of me mates.The scousers were definately the first ones to cotton on to it around 77-78 closely followed by some of the mancs (perry boys) by 83 most of the original heads had moved on to other diversions.But it was still popular and i remember wearing gear like brown wrangler cords, trimm trabbs,pringle jumper with a nice blue kappa cagoule in around 82-83
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Top labels in no specific order for me over the years are the early sportswear like Fila, Sergio Tacchini and Ellesse plus .Armani,CP Company(Boneville),John Smedley and Nicole Farhi. As for footwear Timberland moccasins and boots took a bit of beating and trainers such as the Trimm Trab by Adidas and the Torino by Diadora were Terrace classics and a must have. Even though its 25 years since it all started for me it never leaves you and you still check out whats going on up and down the country and its great to see a lot of the old gear coming back again. Great memories reading some of the posts.
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call yer sel casuals evry fuckin wan ae yoo plastic fugs need blades n shit no cunt can handle it wen real celtic crew members want tae slap fuck oot awe yoo green street wanabees ..u no who,s the real hooligans in europe green brigade numba fuckin wan ………yer awe pusy,s……… csc
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how do i join the A.S.C
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If anyone can help plz email me at wizey666@hotmail.co.uk
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i am ex member of the ayr service crew and although it all finished here years ago i see it has all kicked off again,recently when ayr played killie in the scottish cup they took up over 100 boys and ran complete riot,i also here they went to airdrie and wrecked a few pubs and turned them over as well,now they are back in the 1st division so i expect they will be back in buisness. is there still a lot of teams got firms out there?i remember partick and morten were usually good for a punch up ha ha
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Been down England twice - once with Carlisle to visit Blackpool and thought Carlisle where a decent mob (around 89-90) then in 94 went to Cardiff v Luton and bumped into forty Migs who I followed around for 2 hours taking it to the Welsh at every oppertunity - saw Spurs in Magaluf taking piss also but apart from that havent seen anything the ASC couldnt handle all day lond inc f@@king CCS!!
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Look i have studied the casuals for some time it started in liverpool then man u joined in then london….
but in scotland i must admit the abeerdeen soccer casuals were first then motherwell then hibs….
But dont take that away from the scousers they were first…
moan the ayr service crew!
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I had a right laugh laughing at all the stories on here. Some good, some pish. Basically all this were better than you pish is wearing thin. Were all grown men now with families. Were mostly all into the clothes still, paul and shark mixing it up with everything from kappa, lois cords etc etc, anything goes really.
Basically if you werent in The Aberdeen soccer Casuals from 83 -85 then you missed the best fucking days of your lives!!
Everything else is heresay.tuff titties ladies x
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Paninari of Livingston
Now that folks is a blast from the past?…..
Started in what 1984? by the likes of Gavy,Steff,Ally and co named after the infamous paninaro in Italy
and developed into a mob of around 200 boys?.
Remember the infamous train journey from livi to bathgate one saturday nite in the late 80’s with over a 150 boys, oh the memories.
Made up of hibs,celtic,rangers,aberdeen,hearts casuals this toons mob was a match for any mob in scotland as many mobs found out (including St.johnstone) when the Livi boys turned up in the QOS end for a laugh.
Trying to remember some names
in fact i better not in case they want to forget.
but then again livi was full of gangs thinking about it?Rowdies,DCM,K-toi,Paninari baby crew,barmy army,P.O.S,
been in america for 17 years now so dont know the gen as to how thing evolved.
PANINARI NO1
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Do you remember any of those Paninari Boys?…..
i cant remember must be my old age! so remind me anyone???…
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