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Submit Response is a weblog by Jack Mottram, a journalist who lives in Glasgow, Scotland. There are 1308 posts in the archives. You can subscribe to a feed. This post was made on March 30, 2003 and belongs in the art and culture category. The previous post was , and the next post is .

What is Good?

For years, I’ve been para­phras­ing a quo­ta­tion half-​remembered from a phi­los­o­phy lecture:

Essen­tially, good can be defined as enlight­en­ing con­ver­sa­tion with close friends

I always attribute this to G.E. Moore, and it cer­tainly fits with his con­clu­sions in Prin­cipia Ethica.

In brief, Moore says that attempts to define that which is good tend to con­fuse part with whole, or cause with effect, and as such rest on what he dubbed a ‘naturalistic fallacy.’ In Moore’s view, philoso­phers should not be wast­ing their time sort­ing out how to define the good, or list­ing good things in an attempt to clar­ify what is good, but should accept that that which is good is that which we intu­itively define as good. Finally, and this is where his think­ing becomes irre­sistably attrac­tive to me, he sug­gests that good can best be seen in the way in which we respond to beau­ti­ful objects, and in the way we inter­act with our friends. If memory serves, he does go so far as to say that aes­thetic appre­ci­a­tion and being friends with folk are the ulti­mate goods.

But, I just half-​heartedly skimmed my copy of Prin­cipia Ethica, and Googled a few vari­a­tions on the quote above, to no avail; so I now sus­pect that some­thing I love saying, and like to believe at times, is in fact my half-​memory of my lecturer’s sum­mary of Moore’s think­ing. Which I thought was a bit of a bummer, until I realised that every time I’ve mis­quoted Moore, it’s been prompted by a lively con­ver­sa­tion, or prompted one, between friends!

Next week: Wilde’s Pref­ace to Dorian Gray: Pro­found Truth or Absolute Bol­locks? It’s Both!

Posted at 4pm on 30/03/03 by Jack Mottram to the art and culture category.
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  1. Of course, I hereby invoke Leon, Submit Response Qual­i­fied Philoso­pher, to cor­rect and clar­ify the above.

    Posted by Jack at 4pm on 30.03.03

  2. Ha. That’s about as much as I remem­ber of Moore as well. He sort of dis­ap­peared from my stud­ies when I started spe­cial­is­ing, and got lost in read­ing lan­guage theory and end­less debates about Kant.

    Posted by Leon at 4pm on 30.03.03

  3. Still, look at it this way: if the quote doesn’t turn up in PE, you can just claim it as your own, and be the sub­ject of a fevered debate on the 21st April 2047 edi­tion of “Quote, Unquote”.

    Posted by Leon at 5pm on 30.03.03

  4. Hee. My half asleep brain reg­is­tered this earlier:

    Q: How many Quote, Unquote con­tes­tants does it take to change a lightbulb?

    A: 100. 1 to change it, and the rest to argue about who changed it first.

    Posted by Jack at 5pm on 30.03.03

  5. Actu­ally, what you heard was:

    Q: How many Quote, Unquote con­tes­tants does it take to change a lightbulb?

    A: 100 1 to change it, and the rest to argue about who made the first light­bulb joke.

    Sorry, but I couldn’t resist such an obvi­ous oppor­tu­nity to indulge in some acute and apt pedantry.

    Posted by Leon at 5pm on 30.03.03

  6. At this point, I feel I should point out to read­ers that don’t know us in the flesh that Leon and I are not, as it may appear, 65 year-​old gen­tle­men resplen­dent in smok­ing jack­ets and ever-​so-​slightly jaunty cravats.

    Posted by Jack at 5pm on 30.03.03

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