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		<title>Controversy</title>
		<link>http://submitresponse.co.uk/weblog/2007/11/09/controversy/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 15:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jack Mottram</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This Prince spat is getting weird. Earlier in the week, the three main fansites&#8212;Housequake.com, Prince.org and Prince Fams&#8212;joined forces under the banner of Prince Fans United to fight off threats from Prince&#8217;s legal team, which had forced the three sites to remove all images of Prince from their servers. Sue this, Prince! Prince&#8217;s response? He [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Prince spat is getting weird.</p>

<p>Earlier in the week, the three main fansites&#8212;Housequake.com, Prince.org and Prince Fams&#8212;joined forces under the banner of <a href="http://princefansunited.com/">Prince Fans United</a> to fight off <a href="http://music.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,2206460,00.html">threats</a> from Prince&#8217;s legal team, which had forced the three sites to remove all images of Prince from their servers.</p>

<p><img id="image1285" src="http://submitresponse.co.uk/weblog/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/prince_of_persia_prince.jpg" alt="Prince" /><br /><small style="color:#888">Sue this, Prince!</small></p>

<p>Prince&#8217;s response? He released a song, <i>PFUnk</i>, on a piss-take site, <a href="http://princefamsunited.com/">Prince Fams United</a>.</p>

<p>And now, Prince has issued a rather slippery <a href="http://www.nme.com/news/prince/32426">statement</a>, claiming he was only really miffed about some live shots from the o2 Arena gigs, not every last image of him on every last fansite after all, and that, by barraging them with legal action, he&#8217;s actually &#8216;looking to provide fans with exclusive music&#8230; free of charge&#8217;.</p>

<p>I assume that&#8217;s a reference to <i>PFUnk</i>, a song that includes lyrics like &#8216;Hush yo mouth&#8217; and &#8216;You might not like the taste, but I&#8217;ma stick your face in this funk&#8217;, and so, reasonably enough, has generally been interpreted as the little man saying, &#8216;Cock off, you whingeing twerps, I&#8217;ll do what I like&#8217; to the people who pay his wages.</p>
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		<title>Creative Commons In The UK</title>
		<link>http://submitresponse.co.uk/weblog/2005/04/06/creative-commons-in-the-uk/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2005 17:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jack Mottram</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Becky Hogge&#8217;s Some Rights Reserved, A View of the UK Creative Commons Project is a great overview of the recent porting of Creative Commons licenses into UK law, with an emphasis on the readyness of British institutions to adopt, or consider adopting, the licenses.I tend to use the Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs license, which means that anyone is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/2196">Becky Hogge</a>&#8217;s <a href="http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/policy/2005/04/04/cclicenseinUK.html">Some Rights Reserved, A View of the UK Creative Commons Project</a> is a great overview of the recent porting of <a href="http://creativecommons.org/">Creative Commons</a> licenses into UK law, with an emphasis on the readyness of British institutions to adopt, or consider adopting, the licenses.</p><p>I tend to use the <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/">Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs</a> license, which means that anyone is free to use stuff from this weblog (unlikely, I know, but various <a href="http://submitresponse.co.uk/weblog/category/interviews/">Interviews</a> have been used by students and schoolkids) or <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mottram">my photographs</a> stored on Flickr, as long as they give me credit, do not alter the work in question, and do not use the work for commercial gain.</p><p>All fine and dandy, as I reserve some rights, while making it easier for folk to freely use things I&#8217;ve made. But there are problems. For one thing, hardly anyone has a clue what a Creative Commons license is, which is why <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mottram/6998750/">this photograph</a> ended up, uncredited to me, altered and in a commercial context on <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mottram/8630068/">page seven</a> of the current issue of <a href="http://www.list.co.uk/">The List</a> magazine. (At least I assume so - they&#8217;re good nice people, so it seems safe to say that no one was laughing maniacally in front of their Mac, spluttering &#8216;I did see and understand the CC license, but I shall ignore it!&#8217; as they put the page together.) </p><p>Obviously, in this case, it&#8217;s not a problem - I&#8217;m pleased that the shadowy sprayers of the Maryhill Anti-Graffiti Network got a nice plug in print after <a href="http://www.timabrahams.net/blog/">Tim</a> spotted their work <a href="http://www.submitresponse.co.uk/archives/maryhill_antigraffiti_network.php">here</a> - but it seems safe to say that this sort of thing is quite common, with print publications and websites innocently scooping up CC-licensed content because they don&#8217;t understand the licenses, easy to read as they are for non-legal types, or, more likely, because the content is not clearly labelled as being released under a CC license. Obviously, as the licenses are applied more widely, this lack of understanding will fade, but right now, I&#8217;d bet there&#8217;s a hell of a lot of CC-licensed work being reproduced and refactored uncredited as things stand.</p><p>A second issue: It seems perfectly reasonable to me to photograph, say, <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mottram/8185877/">a detail</a> from my friend <a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1368962/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnxteD0yMHxsbT01MDB8dHQ9b258ZmI9dXxwbj0wfHE9cmhpYW4gbmljaG9sYXN8aHRtbD0xfG5tPW9u;fc=1;ft=20">Rhian</a>&#8217;s installation, or <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mottram/7991580/">a Monica Bonvincini wall text</a> at the DCA, in order to put it on the web with full attribution, but it seems a bit iffy for me to then control the re-publication of that photograph, itself, in a sense, a derivative work based on someone else&#8217;s.</p><p>Does anyone know how the relationship between an image of a copyrighted or CC-licensed work and the work itself is handled?</p>
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		<title>MSN Spaces</title>
		<link>http://submitresponse.co.uk/weblog/2004/12/04/msn-spaces/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2004 14:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jack Mottram</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[From the terms and conditions of MSN Spaces, Microsoft&#8217;s new hosted weblogging service: For materials you post or otherwise provide to Microsoft related to the MSN Web Sites (a &#8220;Submission&#8221;), you grant Microsoft permission to (1) use, copy, distribute, transmit, publicly display, publicly perform, reproduce, edit, modify, translate and reformat your Submission, each in connection [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the terms and conditions of <a href="http://spaces.msn.com/">MSN Spaces</a>, Microsoft&#8217;s new hosted weblogging service:</p>

<blockquote><p>For materials you post or otherwise provide to Microsoft related to the MSN Web Sites (a &#8220;Submission&#8221;), you grant Microsoft permission to (1) use, copy, distribute, transmit, publicly display, publicly perform, reproduce, edit, modify, translate and reformat your Submission, each in connection with the MSN Web Sites, and (2) sublicense these rights, to the maximum extent permitted by applicable law. Microsoft will not pay you for your Submission.</p></blockquote>

<p>I wouldn&#8217;t sign up, if I were you.</p>

<p>(Via <a href="http://radiofreeblogistan.com/2004/12/02/msn_spaces_is_people.html">Radio Free Blogistan</a>)</p>
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		<title>Two Bone Eulogy</title>
		<link>http://submitresponse.co.uk/weblog/2004/09/01/two-bone-eulogy/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2004 11:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jack Mottram</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[art]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[After my re-working (more info) of Slateford&#8217;s FAC 2, come re-workings of the re-working: FAC 2 by Rob Annable. FAC 2 by Stuart Langridge. Who&#8217;s next?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After my <a href="http://www.submitresponse.co.uk/fac2/">re-working</a> (<a href="http://www.submitresponse.co.uk/archives/we_belong_to_you.php">more info</a>) of Slateford&#8217;s <a href="http://www.slateford.org/fac/fac_2.html">FAC 2</a>, come re-workings of the re-working:</p>

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<a href="http://rob.annable.co.uk/fac2/index.php">FAC 2</a> by <a href="http://rob.annable.co.uk/journal.cgi/design/fac2">Rob Annable</a>.
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<a href="http://www.kryogenix.org/random/fac2-remix/">FAC 2</a> by <a href="http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2004/08/31/eulogy">Stuart Langridge</a>.
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<p>Who&#8217;s next?</p>
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